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Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by bobthepanda on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:12PM (#23261289)
> We need some sort of standard for software engineering quality. I don't think this is an academic question anymore. Real people's lives are being impacted every day now by shoddy software, and with the current crisis they often have no alternative. Software that you or I could probably have executed better, but that the people who were hired to do it either a) couldn't, or b) didn't bother. It's nearly impossible for non-technical decision makers in these orgs to evaluate the quality of the systems they've hired people to build. We need quality assurance at an institutional level.

Even if you were to put this in place today (which I don't necessarily agree with) you would still need bean-counters to sign off on paying for replacement services for their sweat, tears and duct tape solution. A good half of the electorate and the politicians, give or take, whip up into a frenzy if a bureaucrat so much as looks at a dollar bill the wrong way, so I doubt this would gain any traction.

Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by _bxg1 on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:14PM (#23261333)
New sweat, tears and duct tape solutions are being created every day. Let's start by focusing on the ones coming down the pipe.
Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by bobthepanda on Thursday May 21, 2020 @03:54PM (#23264149)
What matters to the bean counters is if it can be done without expensing something new, everything else be damned. Unless you can get a clear, popular government mandate to spend money to make things more efficient, this is not a palatable solution.

Given how large refactors tend to go in general, this also doesn't necessarily lead to good outcomes; even with a relatively technocratic administration led by Mike Bloomberg (relative to comparable mayors, at least), upgrading NYC's 911 system massively spun out of control: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/911-overhaul-2b-disaste...

Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by macintux on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:49PM (#23261968)
Which would still face the same problem: the government would rather pay multiple times for crappy software at a lower price than one big bill for quality software the first time.
Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by jimbokun on Thursday May 21, 2020 @04:06PM (#23264316)
Or you can pay one big bill and still get crappy software.

It's difficult to evaluate the quality of software development contractors.

Re:Students are failing AP tests because the College Board c... by ashtonkem on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:58PM (#23262148)
That's not a problem unique to governments, although the consequences in that realm tend to be worse.