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Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by koheripbal on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @04:33AM (#23244636)
I hate Alex Jones, but I have to agree. There's a difference between being kicked out of a restaurant for being an ass, vs being kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth for the rest of your life - without due process.

These online services aren't small mom/pop shops that you can just replace and patronize another. They are global near-monopolies that you cannot function without.

Google isn't just my search provider - they run my email, my internet connection, my cell service, my company's cloud repository, etc... They could destroy me at the drop of a hat.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by kelnos on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @07:00AM (#23245432)
> I hate Alex Jones, but I have to agree. There's a difference between being kicked out of a restaurant for being an ass, vs being kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth for the rest of your life - without due process.

That's a bit of a straw man, no? Jones still has plenty of perfectly-functioning restaurants to visit, with quite extensive menus. If one of the biggest assholes on the internet still has a platform to spew his hate, I don't think we're in any danger of this dystopian society existing where people can be completely silenced based on the will of a few corporations.

> Google isn't just my search provider - they run my email, my internet connection, my cell service, my company's cloud repository, etc... They could destroy me at the drop of a hat.

That's a choice you've made, not a required state of being. There are plenty of other companies that provide search, email, internet service, cell service, cloud repos, etc. that are just as (if not more) functional and featureful.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by koheripbal on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:35PM (#23252082)
I don't see how this is a straw man. He's been banned from all major social media platforms, for life, without due process.

> That's a choice you've made...

No, not really. Because my argument (perhaps wrongly) focused on Google, but it's still true that I have to choose a major near-monopoly corporation to do email, mobile, social media, telephone service, cloud, etc...

There are no alternatives. Have you ever tried to stand up your own email server? You can't. Google won't even relay the emails.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by perilunar on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:34AM (#23245282)
> Google isn't just my search provider - they run my email, my internet connection, my cell service, my company's cloud repository, etc... They could destroy me at the drop of a hat.

More fool you. Maybe you should diversify a bit.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by blaser-waffle on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @08:48AM (#23246235)
Aye, a bit part of my push this year has been de-googling my life. Along with de-facebooking and de-microsofting.
Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by orf on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:36AM (#23245295)
A more apt comparison is being banned from every bar/pub in town for causing issues, without due process and without having set foot in some of them.

Which is perfectly fine and acceptable

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by koheripbal on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:37PM (#23252104)
Being banned from every bar and restaurant in the world for something he said? Have you ever heard of such a thing? It would be ludicrous.
Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by a10c on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:08AM (#23244799)
> Google isn't just my search provider - they run my email, my internet connection, my cell service, my company's cloud repository,

You have no alternative to any of those services?

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by tim333 on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:20AM (#23245203)
I'm skeptical of "kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth"

The Daily Stormer is fairly bad as sites go "Jews Howl as Portuguese Move to Shut Down Their Citizenship Scam" typical story - and after various attempts to get rid of them all you have to do to go to the site is google them and click on the link in the wikipedia page.

About the only sites that are really kicked out of all restaurants are paedophila ones and they deserve that and more IMO.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by bitwize on Thursday May 21, 2020 @12:03PM (#23260119)
Twitter has actually vowed to support pedos, as long as they don't talk about plans to hurt actual, particular children.

But the community of "MAPs" is protected by social media these days. Repeat the 13-50 statistic, though, and you're out (though the likes of "kill all white people" appears to be ok).

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by cycomanic on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @06:43AM (#23245332)
So where were you when the Isis videos were taken off YouTube and ISIS twitter accounts were deleted? The thing is the outcry always only comes when companies don't want to be associated with some right-wing nutjobs hate speech, while I never hear the same people shouting that ISIS promo videos should not be taken down because of censorship. If all censorship is always bad, why not complain about those cases? Call me sceptical, but to me this sounds very much like, "hey they remove content that I sympathise with, instead of content that I don't like" and almost always aimed at propagating the myth of right-wing victimhood.
Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by koheripbal on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:40PM (#23252146)
You really cannot differentiate between content that should criminal murder in progress versus Alex Jones's conspiracy theories?

That's a pretty soft shell you have.

Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by beefbroccoli on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @07:09AM (#23245486)
If I advocate for criminal activity and my advocacy is likely to produce said criminal activity, that speech is not protected.
Re:Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive ... by unethical_ban on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @10:32AM (#23247248)
I think you missed the parent's point. I read it as, "if you get kicked out of every restaurant on the planet, it might be your fault."

Of course there are protections for certain classes of people based on their attributes or fundamentals, but society can call your bullshit out.