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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by subsubzero on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @05:00PM (#23240137)
I don't think you realize how good those Bulls teams of the 90's, especially the 2nd 3-peats were. For the 2nd 3-peats, 96,97,98 championships, they had 3(Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman) top ten of all time defensive players [1]. So lets think, since the dawn of the NBA 3 of the players on this team are considered the best defenders ever to play the game. This is not all Jordan, this is a stellar defensive cast that is beyond anything the game has seen coupled with the best offensive player in a generation(Jordan). Lebron has never had such a quality(defensive) cast surrounding him.

lets not forget coaching. Phil Jackson has won 11 championships, more than any coach ever in the NBA. Who has Lebron had during his championships? Tyronn Lue and Erik Spoelstra, good coaches, but not one of the brightest minds to ever coach the game in Jackson.

Lastly, Lebron is still playing, he could pull off a 3-peat with this current Lakers team, we just don't know. I say all this as a die-hard Jordan fan who thinks people underestimate Lebron because he's "nice".

[1] - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/519667-defensive-legends...

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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by economicslol on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @05:21PM (#23240384)
Serioulsy I mean Jordan was winning scoring titles for years before he won a ring and when he took a year off to play baseball the Bulls were within an inch of the Finals and possibly winning it without him. Meanwhile Lebron has led teams to the finals and the year after he leaves they are basically lottery teams. He is far more crucial to his teams than Jordan was.
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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by rumanator on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @06:43PM (#23241185)
> when he took a year off to play baseball the Bulls were within an inch of the Finals

In 1994 the Bulls were eliminated by New York in the second round.

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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by economicslol on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @01:22PM (#23249403)
This comment is laughable. They swept Cleveland in the first round and took NY to 7 Games and the Knicks then took the Rockets to 7 Games in the Finals.
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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by rumanator on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @02:23PM (#23250073)
What's laughable is claiming that getting eliminated in the second round is getting an inch from the final. I mean, 8 teams get to an inch of winning the championship every single year!
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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by sharkmerry on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @07:30PM (#23241564)
and the 95 playoffs, he was back for and they got eliminated in the second round. 4-2 by orlando. they took NY to game 7.
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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by rumanator on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @07:52PM (#23241743)
> and the 95 playoffs, he was back

Jordan returned in March/April after abandoning baseball in protest. The playoffs started in April 28th.

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Re:The Great Asshole Fallacy by pmart123 on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @06:48PM (#23241222)
The expected wins of that team was 52-30. Pippen had a weak 92-93 season (WS/48 was 0.13 versus 0.194 in 93-94). The bench was improved with Longley, Kerr and Kukoc. Swap Harper for BJ and Rodman for Grant and that team was closer to the 95-96 team.
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