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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by ftvy on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:19AM (#23231796)
A private citizen enjoys the right to self-defense, and in cases where killing the assailant is the only means to end the fight and preserve one's life, that is generally held as justifiable. Law enforcement officers enjoy the same right.

There are internal investigations every time a police officer discharges their weapon. They don't enjoy immunity against any crime they commit. If there is no evidence of a crime, then there cannot be any criminal charges.

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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by jakeogh on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:50AM (#23232014)
You are correct, except you skipped over the critical "entering a domicile without a Constutional reason" part. There is no way for the occupant to know it's lawful or even the police.

If it's done because of a immediate threat to life situation, then the people involved are rightfully risking their lives, to save another, and they know that.

If it's done to prevent the flushing of evidence down a toilent, then that's a bad trade for everyone, and the Senator from Kentuckey is right.

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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by ftvy on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:52AM (#23232033)
Completely agree.
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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by armenarmen on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:48AM (#23232005)
Honest question, how many cops have been charged for manslaughter/murder while on the job in the last 10 years?
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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by ftvy on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:51AM (#23232027)
How would I know that off the top of my head? Do you expect such a local event to always be national news?

Edit: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+many+police+officers+were+charged+...

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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by anigbrowl on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @03:41AM (#23232299)
Why aren't there easily available statistics for this well-defined social function? I can get medical malpractice statistics very easily, why not law enforcement malpractice?
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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by armenarmen on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:56AM (#23232052)
True not fair to ask off top of your head.

I did find one: https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-police-officer-gerald-goin...

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Re:Rand Paul says no-knock warrants 'should be forbidden' in... by jakeogh on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @03:34AM (#23232250)
Meta: It's a solvable problem that something like Pacer isnt open. Running stats on the law and how it's applied could be easier.
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