Two leading economists disagree about the flagging American Dream

Re:Two leading economists disagree about the flagging Americ... by SpicyLemonZest on Sunday May 17, 2020 @10:31PM (#23217616)

This claim would imply that, at some point in American history, every single person below the middle class was just a lazy bum who couldn't be bothered to get a good job. I'm not sure that's true and I kinda suspect you don't think so either.

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Re:Two leading economists disagree about the flagging Americ... by badrabbit on Sunday May 17, 2020 @10:44PM (#23217721)

I don't think so either, the operating phrase there is "even if" ,and no,that excludes lazy people and criminals. Honest,law abiding and hard working would translate to a livable life however below average it may be. And it has always been a dream that only some live up to. For many classes of society,this has never been true.

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Re:Two leading economists disagree about the flagging Americ... by throwafellow on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:45PM (#23224822)

If you chronically underpay and exploit people of lower class who aren't dumb as bricks then you create a class of lazy people and criminals who act that way because they are aware that they have no other choices.

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Re:Two leading economists disagree about the flagging Americ... by brmgb on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @04:16AM (#23232543)

"what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”

Thomas More, Utopia

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