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Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by perl4ever on Sunday May 17, 2020 @08:20PM (#23216828)
Well, how can you expect an astronaut to have a good answer to the biggest roadblock? You need to poll some people who tried but failed to become astronauts. They would know more.
Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by ganstyles on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:26AM (#23218332)
Sure, but when the astronaut application job posting recently came up, I was super excited. I would leave my technical job in a heartbeat to be an astronaut. But, the qualifications specifically needed specific things. Like, iirc, degrees in hard engineering disciplines. Otherwise it was a clear "No." I would expect them to mention things like really, really needing a hard engineering masters (at least, if not PhD) to even not get weeded out at resume review stage.

Also, I know two astronauts relatively well and they say the same thing when the topic has come up. One took a non traditional approach to being an astronaut, applying many times over years, but still had a hard science advanced degree. It's literally a requirement in the application.

To my chagrin, I will never be an astronaut.

Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by ISL on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:30AM (#23218723)
Crista McAuliffe was a social-studies teacher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christa_McAuliffe

Where there is a will, sometimes there is a way.

Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by john_minsk on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:20AM (#23219325)
>> NASA wanted to find an "ordinary person," a gifted teacher who could communicate with students while in orbit.

So i guess maybe some programs like this will appear in the future...

Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by craftinator on Sunday May 17, 2020 @11:28PM (#23218014)
Failure is the best teacher, in that things working out the way you want them to almost always has a lower probability than the other way around (i.e. you're very good at basketball, so you should have a good chance of being in the NBA right?) This is why easy success stories are so demoralizing to people; they are hearing about the few who got lucky vs the countless ones who did everything they could to succeed but it just didn't work out.
Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by MaxBarraclough on Monday May 18, 2020 @08:46AM (#23221618)
How does that relate to failure is the best teacher?
Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by craftinator on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @07:47PM (#23241713)
Because amazing success stories are most likely due to chance, not action. This means that the people who succeeded, especially without first failing a large number of times (like applying to be an astronaut or NBA player; you get one, maybe two chances), haven't learned much about how to accomplish those tasks.
Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by random32840 on Monday May 18, 2020 @04:47AM (#23219972)
I don't think the problem is who they polled. The problem is that they're fishing out two-sentence platitudes that are not useful.
Re:Show HN: Career Fair – Learn about Jobs by People Who Hav... by chrisseaton on Sunday May 17, 2020 @10:29PM (#23217603)
Huh interesting. You could have a website where for each job people want you find someone who failed at each point along the way to getting it, so you can know what to avoid doing yourself.