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Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by nradov on Saturday May 16, 2020 @06:25PM (#23207698)
This is a ridiculous comment, totally disconnected from reality. The risk of a seriously bad outcome from SARS-CoV-2 infection are far less than 1/6 (Russian Roulette) for most people. Hiding in our homes until a vaccine appears at some unknown point in the future is obviously not a viable strategy.

If we drive the economy into another Great Depression that will kill many people as well. Federal government liquidity injections are not a solution. At some point if people aren't out working to create value then society will disintegrate.

Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by jonahbenton on Saturday May 16, 2020 @08:13PM (#23208289)
Appreciate your opinion, and agree the ratio isn't 1/6, but it's not de minimus and there is no safe population.

There is essential work, those jobs are wartime/highly hazardous jobs, and deserve all of the support and gear that actual war fighters get. That isn't happening.

Finally, Fed liquidity is a tool with far greater power than we are utilizing. To not exercise that power, and to not equip hazard roles- is simply barbaric.

Good luck and good health to you.

Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by concordDance on Sunday May 17, 2020 @04:37AM (#23210602)
You say there is no safe population, but isn't the risk to healthy preteens less than 1 in a million?
Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by jonahbenton on Sunday May 17, 2020 @08:44PM (#23216995)
No. In NYC, in the teen and pre-teen set, we have thousands of confirmed/symptomatic infections, hundreds of hospitalizations, dozens of deaths, and dozens of strange case histories. That's what's reported. I speculate based on anecdotal conversations with other parents there is much still unknown/unreported.

We don't have a model for how to understand exposure and immunity dynamics for this population. My personal sense/estimate is that between 10% and 20% of the child population has been sufficiently "exposed" to now be considered "safe" but I would not bet my children's lives on that measure. I am eagerly awaiting the day I can get my kids tested for antibodies, but even if they test positive I can't consider them or us to be "safe" until we know a whole lot more.

At any rate, given just the reported numbers, a conservative back of the envelope risk-of-significant-impact from "exposure" in the teen/pre-teen set is somewhere between 1 in 1,000 and 1 in 10,000.

Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by concordDance on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:52AM (#23219168)
Your statement is contradicted by this page here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

Which says there been three coronavirus related teen+preteen deaths with no underlying conditions (all of which were teens IIRC) in NYC and another 6 with underlying conditions.

Do you have a more reliable source?

Also, 1 in 1000 is close to the estimated infection fatality rate for the general population (estimated between 0.1% and 0.5% normally) and kids are supposed to be a couple of orders of magnitude less at risk than the population average. So your numbers all seem utter nonesense to me.

I've never even heard of a preteen death of covid.

Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by triyambakam on Saturday May 16, 2020 @06:40PM (#23207793)
> Hiding in our homes until a vaccine appears at some unknown point in the future is obviously not a viable strategy.

Yes, this is the point I am trying to make. But most of the demographic here (who already work from home or easily transitioned to doing so) likely don't find it difficult and are mostly unaffected.

Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by op00to on Saturday May 16, 2020 @07:55PM (#23208202)
Nothing like attacking your audience when your crazed ramblings go over like a lead balloon.
Re:Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a Covid app, but it ha... by triyambakam on Saturday May 16, 2020 @09:00PM (#23208488)
How is outlining the demographic reality an attach? Do you feel attacked when someone points out your eye colour?