Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in one minute

Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by noisem4ker on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:22AM (#23204120)

>it triggers the page load when the user starts pressing their mouse

This breaks the standard GUI interaction model. Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-up events, not mouse-down, and there's probably good reasons for that.

Any client-side hacks that attempt to improve the perceived page speed are somehow bound to break something. If there really is a simple way, it's already been implemented at the browser level, for all websites. Link prefetching is already a thing. Do you want fast pages? Make your server-side rendering fast.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by grx on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:29AM (#23204187)

> Do you want fast pages? Make your server-side rendering fast

Yeah.. imagine being so thirsty for page load efficiency that you ignore all the bloat of JavaScript and poor server-side rendering but instead directly skip to breaking the standardized GUI/UX

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by dieulot on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:30AM (#23204197)

instant.page is 1.1kB and encourages efficient server-side rendering.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by grx on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:33AM (#23204230)

Sorry if my comment came in kinda offensive, it's a general stance I was criticizing, not your project in particular! Your offer is based on an existing demand, so who should feel addressed are those who use solutions like yours.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by boublepop on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:46AM (#23204356)

There’s a joke about two bankers walking down wallstreet. One says to the other: “my gosh look, there’s a 100$ bill on the ground”. The other without looking down turns to him and says: “Impossible! iIf there was 100$ on the ground someone would have picked it up!”

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by chrismorgan on Saturday May 16, 2020 @12:24PM (#23204780)

But note that keyboard things operate on key down. Software operating on key up has caused me surprisingly much grief. I can think of two systems I interact with, off the top of my head, that trigger things on Escape key up, which is badly wrong in that I often do Alt down → Tab press → no wait, I do want to be here → Escape press → Alt up, and so the browser which didn’t see the Escape down (because it didn’t belong to it) does see the Escape up, and improperly cancels what I was in the middle of or similar. This is so annoying.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by reaperducer on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:50AM (#23204388)

Buttons are typically triggered on mouse-up events, not mouse-down, and there's probably good reasons for that.

So you can drag the link somewhere else. Like to the desktop or a text editor or a terminal window.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by hlandau on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:54AM (#23204438)

Yep. This convention also enables the cancellation of a click, which can be useful if you realise your error mid-click.

Another piece of software egregious for violating this UI convention is Adobe Reader. I remember upgrading to, IIRC v9? and finding that all buttons in it had been changed to actuate on mouse-down, and wondering what the christ the developers were thinking. Perhaps they thought it made their software seem more "responsive".

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by CraftThatBlock on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:40AM (#23204300)

This is incorrect. It starts loading on mouse down, but still acts on mouse up.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by tjeannin on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:46AM (#23204350)

Not the case on the https://instant.page website. If you mouse down links, the page changes.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by mcintyre1994 on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:41AM (#23204317)

It doesn't - try drag-dropping one of the links in their sidebar into a new tab. You get the page changed before you lift the mouse button.

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Re:Show HN: Make your site’s pages faster than instant in on... by seabass on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:43AM (#23204334)

No. Mouse down on any of the sidebar links on that site to see for yourself.

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