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Re:Weakening Cycles So That Turing Can Halt by Xophmeister on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:09AM (#23190809)
I've noticed a related phenomenon in day-to-day life, especially regarding deadlocking. There are occasions when two parties will deadlock; the classic one is when two people walk towards each other, directly in line, and come to a point where they want to pass without colliding. It happens -- often with comic effect -- when the two parties sidestep at perceptibly the same point and in the same direction, again and again, deadlocking themselves. However, something kicks in after two-or-three failed attempts to resolve the deadlock.

I've noticed similar things at traffic junctions; roundabouts and single-lane roads, especially. Personally, I sometimes do this when I go to open a door that is often, but not always, locked: my hand will reach for the latch, then go for the handle, then back and forth semi-automatically, until my higher thinking kicks in and I realise I've just got to make a decision!

In these cases, I feel as though the cycles aren't weakened, but instead there's some kind of executive function -- that's normally asleep, because it's presumably expensive to run -- which oversees to break the impasse, when needed.

Re:Weakening Cycles So That Turing Can Halt by chris_st on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:44AM (#23191027)
In the "two people walking towards each other" case, I've battled that my whole life. I typically stare right at the other person, anxiously waiting for them to pick a direction so I can go the other way.

My wife pointed out to me that just by picking a side, and then looking in that direction as the other person comes towards you, that they (possibly unconsciously) go the other way, and conflict avoided! Mind blown. And it works.

Re:Weakening Cycles So That Turing Can Halt by Xophmeister on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:54AM (#23191096)
Another solution I've heard for this problem is to not look the other person in the eye and just look passed/through them without faltering. IIRC, this comes across as an assertion of dominance and the other party will submit and move aside. I don't actually know if this works :P Also, I assume there's a hilarious edge case where two super-assertive people just walk into each other.
Re:Weakening Cycles So That Turing Can Halt by heavenlyblue on Friday May 15, 2020 @08:56AM (#23191611)
Or you could just say that this is an assertion of “I am intelligent enough to pick the path I would like to go given the fact that the choice of a path is irrelevant for both of us”.

The fact that you lack confidence doesn’t suddenly make others alpha fe/males.

Re:Weakening Cycles So That Turing Can Halt by FartyMcFarter on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:52AM (#23191082)
I think this is called a livelock.