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Re:San Diego Supervisor Says Only 6 of 194 Recorded Deaths ‘... by Analemma_ on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:42PM (#23187917)
We have a very reliable baseline number on how many people die per day. It’s completely reasonable to assume that all deaths in excess of that number are, directly or indirectly, caused by Covid.
Re:San Diego Supervisor Says Only 6 of 194 Recorded Deaths ‘... by salmon30salmon on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:47PM (#23187954)
No, we do not. Because every. single. other. thing. in society has changed in the past three months. We have evidence of people refusing to call emergency services due to fear of contracting covid. We have evidence of an increase in death that _can't_ be attributed to covid. There is really no comparison between now and last year at this time. Literally everything is different.
Re:San Diego Supervisor Says Only 6 of 194 Recorded Deaths ‘... by Analemma_ on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:12AM (#23193062)
> We have evidence of people refusing to call emergency services due to fear of contracting covid.

Which is indirectly because of Covid, that's my whole point.

Re:San Diego Supervisor Says Only 6 of 194 Recorded Deaths ‘... by salmon30salmon on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:10PM (#23194592)
That is from our _response_ to Covid. One is within our control.
Re:San Diego Supervisor Says Only 6 of 194 Recorded Deaths ‘... by mullingitover on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:05PM (#23195306)
Let's say you rob a bank, and you get in a gunfight with the police. If the police accidentally shoot a bystander, you are charged with their homicide. That's because you were the root cause of that person being shot.

The same goes for coronavirus deaths - ultimately the excess mortality is due to the virus, even when those deaths are not directly attributable.

We do the same thing when calculating hurricane death tolls - you don't have to be hit by a flying tree to have your death count as a hurricane death, you could just as easily die because the power was out and your ventilator failed, or because your insulin supply ran out.