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Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by asveikau on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:37PM (#23170860)
It wasn't so long ago that I was calling up restaurants directly for delivery. I don't do that anymore.

There were difficulties ordering over the phone sometimes. People would mishear you. They would be overwhelmed with orders at busy times. A few places had online ordering directly, mitigating these issues.

But some of the most interesting aspects in contrast to the apps is how they charged for delivery. It was common for, say, a pizza place to hire their own driver. But, and maybe this only works in cities, I ordered from some people who seemed to contract out. It seemed like some of those people were making it ok as a standalone business, though you wouldn't necessarily know that the restaurant wasn't employing them directly or that they did deliveries for multiple places.

A lot of places seemed to eat some of the cost of delivery but not raise the menu prices. So they would only let you deliver above a minimum price or order size. And of course you were expected to tip the driver.

But these apps take a hefty fee on top of the posted price, and they have a charge that goes to the courier, and you can tip above that. It seems like added consumer costs are higher than with the old way.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by Traster on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:54PM (#23171055)
I actually have the opposite experience - if my delivery goes wrong on an app there is nothing I can do. If my local restaurant fucks up I call them and get it sorted. Oh and 'delivery between 8:30-8:35... 8:35-8:40..8:40-8:45...8:45-8:50.... Like jesus, these companies hire *thousandss of software engineers and AI experts and this is what you get? I know the restaurant is more than 10 minutes away and you're telling me my delivery will be here in 3?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by ErikAugust on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:41PM (#23170919)
Let's have an app that provides a directory of restaurants in the area, and provides the menu and order form for a selected restaurant.

And we remove all the delivery driver handling crap. Let the restaurant handle that. Sounds like a plan to me.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by somethoughts on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:12PM (#23171271)
I think the biggest value add - from a user perspective only - is as follows:

1.) accessing a local directory of restaurants with their menus

2.) accessing a common user interface experience for ordering

3.) not having to enter credit card info

4.) common portal to receive updates from the restaurant on the delivery

The actual dispatch of the driver and hiring of the driver is not a key component of the user experience and could easily be handled by the restaurant owner.

I feel like Square is uniquely positioned to provide 1-4 given their existing access to restaurants via Square POS and Square websites (Weebly).

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by mewpmewp2 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:24PM (#23171399)
Why would it be better if restaurant itself handles deliveries rather than a network of drivers?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by somethoughts on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:45PM (#23171641)
I think its more that delivery specifics is a don't care for most end users - other than being able to see where the driver is. Actually the key value-add for the delivery apps is the credit card on file. Typing in 16-digits CCNs and 3 digit CCV and expiration for every restaurant every time you order (and perhaps more importantly, worrying about the safety of doing so) is a huge hurdle.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by mewpmewp2 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:18AM (#23176034)
Yeah; I am asking though because it seems many here seem to say or at least imply that it would be better if restaurants had their own drivers, however I fail to see how it does not have overhead or could be more optimal.

So I suspect it stems from irrational hatred towards middleman services.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by albntomat0 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:01PM (#23171155)
Is there enough demand for non-standard food types (I have to imagine more folks get pizza delivered, than say, sushi) for each restaurant to maintain their own group of drivers?

Not saying the end result has to look like uber eats, etc, but there do seem to be efficiencies from having X drivers collectively cover Y restaurants, with X << Y