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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by pron on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @07:47AM (#23165863)
It's probably the closest contender [1], but its non-Windows story is still a handicap, as is Microsoft's habit of making sweeping incompatible changes to their development platforms every 5-6 years.

[1]: A different philosophy that gives more control to the user in exchange for explicitness puts it ahead in some areas (structs) and behind in others (compilation quality, GC), but as a runtime engineer it's "technologically" behind (I work on OpenJDK so I'm biased, but I came to work on OpenJDK because that's where most interesting innovation in runtimes happens).

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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by moron4hire on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @08:17AM (#23166067)
Microsoft doesn't make breaking changes. I have code that has survived three or four of your supposed cycles that still runs completely fine.
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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by orthoxerox on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:39AM (#23166768)
Microsoft did kill off or sunset some parts of the Framework. WCF, WWF, AppDomain, expression trees, dynamic, VB.

People who wrote WCF services in VB for a living are probably extremely disappointed.

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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by mr_custard on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @10:41AM (#23167316)
Disappointed? Not at all! I worked with it many years ago.

Whilst WCF made some notable improvements over what existed within the ecosystem before it, it was still a sprawling, complex PITA and full of developer friction. Killing it off in this case was definitely the right thing to do :-)

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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by jbeam on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:56AM (#23168195)
Do you have anything to support that expression trees are being sunset? I haven't seen anything of the sort, unless you are talking about a deprecated library that has been replaced. But System.Linq.Expressions is still around.
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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by moron4hire on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @12:08PM (#23168336)
I've also seen nothing about DLR being removed
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Re:Janet: a lightweight, expressive and modern Lisp by ohitsdom on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:41AM (#23166785)
.NET Core's cross-platform tools and ecosystem is wonderful. I'm working on a small team and the devs are using Windows, Mac, and Linux. CI builds are a mix of Windows and Linux, deploying to Linux.

I think their biggest weakness now is branding (.NET vs .NET Core). This will be fixed with .NET 5, which merges the two and will make all flavors of .NET cross-platform.

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