Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by ghshephard on Monday May 11, 2020 @01:55PM
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Okay - I'm going to reveal my statistics ignorance here - but if they did get a false positive, how does 0.0% fall within the range of possibilities (or is that allowing for it might be 0.0499..% or lower?)
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Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by IfOnlyYouKnew on Monday May 11, 2020 @02:11PM
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Not ignorant at all... I believe the issue is that the statement ("95% confidence interval of 0.0 to 0.5") has just slightly different/counterintuitive meaning in this case. In general, you can always make the interval larger, but you want it to be smaller. With the understanding that the 95% is a lower bound, [0.0, 25%] is also a valid confidence interval.
But, yes, you are entirely correct as to the practical meaning. 0% itself is impossible, but 0.0...1% could still happen.
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by barbegal on Monday May 11, 2020 @03:07PM
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Correct, I rounded to the appropriate number of significant figures. I hate extra significant figures which suggest that the data is more precise than it really is
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by samatman on Monday May 11, 2020 @04:01PM
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All of the sibling answers are correct, but ignoring another possibility: that the timeline is simply wrong, and SARS2 was present in the US early enough that the "false positive" is in fact a true positive.
Which can't lead to a "true 0%", since there's no such animal. But it could mean that all of the tests gave correct answers, in the trial.
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by squnch on Monday May 11, 2020 @05:17PM
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They could be testing this on five year old samples.
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by MarkusQ on Monday May 11, 2020 @05:30PM
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From the article:
> Specificity samples were derived from de-identified excess serum specimens sent to our clinical virology laboratory in 2018 and 2019.
So...not five years ago, and it is even possible that a significant number were from late 2019.
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by renewiltord on Monday May 11, 2020 @03:03PM
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What is the smallest number greater than 0?
For the things considered here, the point 0 is measure zero so open starting at 0 and closed at 0 are the same. L
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by richardwhiuk on Monday May 11, 2020 @02:01PM
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Rounding - 0.000000001% is treated as 0.0%.
(More likely, 0.04% or similar is being treated as 0.0%, but I haven't done the maths to confirm what the number would be)
Re:New Abbott SARS-CoV-2 antibody test has 99.90% specificit...
by madhadron on Monday May 11, 2020 @03:08PM
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We know that 0% isn't a real value for a test's error rate, but the statistical procedure being used doesn't have any "look, it's never zero" criteria built into its math. All it says is that 0 is one of the numbers consistent with the data given these criteria.