Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit
by wpietri on Saturday May 09, 2020 @07:58PM
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You can't keep politics out of the workplace. Your notion that diversity programs shouldn't exist is enormously political, and company having them or refusing to have them is political either way. Especially here in America, where the rights and privileges of white men have been intensely political topics for literal centuries. You are practicing politics right here, right now.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit
by eloff on Sunday May 10, 2020 @10:20AM
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A diversity program is inherently political, as you said. I don't think it has a place in a company. Again, I think leave your politics at home. You seem to think that's not possible, but that's how I would do things, were it up to me.
It's got nothing to do with men's or women's rights. I'm dismayed by that whole argument. Let the meritocracy rule and the chips fall where they may.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit
by wpietri on Sunday May 10, 2020 @10:43AM
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Not having a diversity program is also political. The concept of meritocracy is political. Claiming that the things fitting with your political biases are non-political is political.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit
by eloff on Sunday May 10, 2020 @11:13AM
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If that's the case everything is political. I'm not sure I accept that.
What I want to say is I don't care about left or right or the agendas of either. Focus on the product, the customers, and the fight. Alexander the Great never had a diversity program. I'm not going to say he was the pinnacle of morality here, but maybe it's a good idea to focus on the important things if you want to be successful.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit
by wpietri on Sunday May 10, 2020 @02:57PM
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Wanting to ignore America's long history of sexism and racism is a political position. Wanting to ignore the effects of those is a political position. Your contributions here are political activism.
If you want to be a reactionary, fine. But please own it.
I think Demore's memo has little place in a company, but neither does the diversity program that spawned it. Better to keep politics out of the work place. But given the context, it was fully justified, regardless of its merits or lack thereof and I think the person who leaked it committed a real sin here, as did the company for firing him.