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Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by tomnipotent on Saturday May 09, 2020 @10:54AM (#23125157)
Journalist using the words "frat" in an article doesn't make something true. The only place I see this term slung is in the media and HN, or people making up abstract bad guys to vent their anger on.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by saagarjha on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:57AM (#23125792)
Fraternities exist, and they have a culture associated with them. Visit any college campus (well, not right now) and you’ll find out exactly what it is.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by googlryas on Saturday May 09, 2020 @01:57PM (#23126886)
By "culture associated with them" you mean you have a stereotype of their culture you associate with them.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by saagarjha on Saturday May 09, 2020 @02:20PM (#23127129)
No, I was recently a college student who lived near frat houses. (Yes, I know there are academic fraternities: that’s not what this discussion was about.)
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by googlryas on Saturday May 09, 2020 @06:01PM (#23128640)
I was recently living next to black people, so let me tell you about how black people really are.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by tomnipotent on Sunday May 10, 2020 @11:34AM (#23133412)
Exactly. Most people use silly stereotypes from TV to paint "frat bois" in some biased lighting, never ceases to amuse me.
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Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by tomnipotent on Sunday May 10, 2020 @12:15PM (#23133737)
All you've demonstrated is general male misogyny. This is nothing new, and has as much overlap with fraternities as charities, churches, and sports.

Painting it was "frat bro" just makes for a better more exciting headline.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by manigandham on Saturday May 09, 2020 @03:32PM (#23127643)
The media is not "everywhere", it's the media, which currently has a massive problem with subjective narratives rather than facts.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by DonHopkins on Saturday May 09, 2020 @04:14PM (#23127934)
Are you actually suggesting that it follows from the media being not being "everywhere" that Frat Bros culture is a myth?

Exactly what about the Snapchat or Jared Kushner stories I cited do you believe is a hoax?

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by manigandham on Saturday May 09, 2020 @05:02PM (#23128295)
> "culture is a myth" "believe is a hoax"

Please stop claiming things that were never said. You do this constantly in your comments and it's not fair or productive.

My point is only that the media is not the objective truth or overruling expert in any single subject, and often filled with highly-opinionated, ideological, and sometimes misleading takes.

As far as this specific issue, I disagree that it is so widespread across the industry outside of a few companies with clear problems. Also the Kushner story seems to be mocking their appearance than behaviors.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by tomnipotent on Sunday May 10, 2020 @12:55PM (#23134093)
It's a media narrative constructed to sell headlines.

The exact same behavior is present in people that have zero background in frats. How do you explain that?

This is not a "frat bros" problem, it's a misogyny problem. Painting it with the words frat just helps paint whatever biased narrative is being spun to make the story more compelling.