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Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by spangry on Saturday May 09, 2020 @08:37AM (#23124225)
If making a mess is what gets you fired, shouldn't google have gone after whoever leaked the memo, instead of Damore?
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by tgsovlerkhgsel on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:07AM (#23124398)
They are likely a) harder to find b) firing Damore is more likely to satisfy the loudest group while firing the leaker is going to rile them up more.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by sacks2k on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:33AM (#23124557)
It wouldn't be that hard to find.

"firing the leaker is going to rile them up more."

It seems our society has devolved into satisfying the mob rather than doing the right thing these days.

I've seen some of the comments from internal Google groups that were since leaked after this incident. Some of the most horrible thoughts and opinions were posted, with actual real names, but nobody got punished or fired. Why? Because they were progressive/hard-left thoughts and opinions.

This is all about politics and has nothing to do with right or wrong.

It's just more proof that these large tech companies are becoming the equivalent of fascist governments that police our thoughts and opinions....and punish us for wrongthink.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by curmudgeont653 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:49AM (#23124669)
Society hasn't devolved; this is how it's always been.

Actors with power exercise that power by enforcing their will over those with less.

Googlers being mostly neo-left is irrelevant. Were they neo-con, Google would've done the same and appeased them by firing a single employee as a scapegoat. In reality, Google doesn't care about politics because it, like sovereign states, is only mindful of its own self-interest, political games are only one tool in its aresenal to get there; and just like sovereign states, Google is effectively a stateless yet sovereign state of its own, not strictly bound under any state's power, like the citizens of any country are.

The truth is, buddy, politics won't do anything for you. They've been bread and circus since Ancient Athens for the labor classes so they wouldn't cause too much of a mess.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by randallsquared on Saturday May 09, 2020 @10:51AM (#23125132)
> Google doesn't care about politics because it, like sovereign states, is only mindful of its own self-interest

This is often a useful abstraction for predicting corporate activity in general, but not explaining specific actions by specific people in the company.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by cft on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:11PM (#23125947)
Politics, buddy, did a lot for Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Castro or Chavez. We aren't manifestly destined differently here.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by at_a_remove on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:48PM (#23130144)
I would like to see some of those comments, thoughts, and opinions, as well-sourced as possible.

As far as I can tell, people seem to be reacting to ... a lot of translations, cherry-picking, inaccurate summations, and strawmen when it comes to this Damore deal.

Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:29AM (#23125499)
They fired the most vocal guy railing against Damore, so they plausibly could have fired the leaker as well.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by spangry on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:47AM (#23125678)
That would certainly upset one of my preconceived notions about this whole affair. Could you provide a source on that?
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:49AM (#23125699)
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by username90 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:42PM (#23126190)
Actually Google has been much harsher on the extreme left crowd at Google since then. They didn't say it officially but I think they realized that both sides were to blame for this PR mess and just bashing one side will make the other way more vocal and aggressive in the future.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by drivebycomment on Saturday May 09, 2020 @01:14PM (#23126486)
Seems like you are right, given their firing of the opposite political spectrum: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/11/27/goo...
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by CydeWeys on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:24AM (#23124500)
Por que no los dos? Google has fired leakers too.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by wan23 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:02PM (#23125853)
I'd say it's fairly likely that they found and fired the leaker, but had them sign an NDA. Google hates leaks and has internal surveillance methods in place to catch leakers, especially ones that cause this much trouble.
Re:James Damore and three others end Google suit by foldr on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:54AM (#23124698)
Google may have fired whoever leaked the memo, for all we know.