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Re:Write Libraries, Not Frameworks by AmericanChopper on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:20AM (#23122285)
But that’s just OOP in general. You can choose a language that defaults to not using OOP-style abstractions, but then people will question why you choose python/node/ruby over a proper language like Go (or whatever else)
Re:Write Libraries, Not Frameworks by oreally on Saturday May 09, 2020 @04:25AM (#23123095)
> But that’s just OOP in general.

Nope, that's OOP taken to extremes rather. Java does that with enforcing things to be classes.

Re:Write Libraries, Not Frameworks by AmericanChopper on Saturday May 09, 2020 @05:14AM (#23123252)
The OOP paradigm itself requires rather heavy use of abstraction. You can deviate from those patterns to an extent, you can add more polymorphism if you want to, you can be selective in using some design patterns like DTOs. But most of the complaints I hear about Java would apply equally to most of the C# projects I’ve worked on, because those are just the annoying bits of OOP. I’d agree the Java is a bit more inflexible, but it’s not like the other OOP languages aren’t also full of boilerplate and layer upon layer of abstractions.
Re:Write Libraries, Not Frameworks by mewpmewp2 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @01:58AM (#23122643)
I will be honest and tell them it is because these are more productive and I enjoy being productive
Re:Write Libraries, Not Frameworks by AmericanChopper on Saturday May 09, 2020 @02:08AM (#23122672)
How productive you are with any particular tool really depends on what you’re trying to do with it.