April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7%

Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by pjc50 on Friday May 08, 2020 @09:36AM (#23114706)

I'm not sure how more disease, death, and long-term health conditions is someone else's optimistic outcome, but it seems to be inevitable.

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by save_ferris on Friday May 08, 2020 @09:55AM (#23114878)

It’s not that more disease and death is desired by one side, rather there’s political momentum behind not believing that it’s as severe as it’s being reported.

We no longer live in a world with shared truths, and this is the most remarkable manifestation of this new reality.

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by pjc50 on Friday May 08, 2020 @10:02AM (#23114952)

I'm reminded of the 1932 Pulitzer Prize. It's difficult to report even a very high number of deaths in a saturated disinformation environment.

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by commandlinefan on Friday May 08, 2020 @01:48PM (#23117471)

> the 1932 Pulitzer Prize

Ok, I googled it and I still don't get it... are you talking about the cartoon?

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by pjc50 on Friday May 08, 2020 @02:37PM (#23117966)

https://www.pulitzer.org/news/statement-walter-duranty

Duranty got the prize for being one of a very small number of Western journalists allowed into Stalin's Soviet Union, and writing about a visit to Ukraine.

He made no mention of the mass famine ongoing at the time, the Holomodor. Wikipedia lists the death toll as "3 to 12 million", because it was a totalitarian state and real measurement was impossible.

So the answer to "is it possible for millions to die and it simply not be reported at the time" is "yes".

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by michaelborromeo on Friday May 08, 2020 @11:35AM (#23115943)

Being allowed to return to work or a business you run, being able to pay rent, feed your family, etc.

These are positive outcomes of lockdowns being lifted.

The danger in looking at this as a binary “opening kills people” is that you miss the trade offs and in doing so you miss the other nuanced policy options that sit in between complete lockdown and no lockdown.

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Re:April Unemployment Rate Rose to a Record 14.7% by pjc50 on Friday May 08, 2020 @11:53AM (#23116167)

It's possible that "looser lockdown with mandatory masks" might work - it seems to have done so in Eastern Europe and some of the South Asian countries. But for some reason that doesn't seem to be on the agenda in the US or UK?

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