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Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by jjoonathan on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:26AM (#23111381)
> already has it setup and customized and just brings their config

You might not have seen it happen, but if my experience was any indication, they spent a lot of time crafting that config file.

I've spent less total time configuring TextMate, Sublime, IntelliJ, Atom, Jupyter, VS Code, and PyCharm than I spent back in the day trying to learn emacs lisp and get the emacs plugins for ObjC syntax highlighting and fuzzy filename matching to play nicely with each other. Meanwhile, each of those GUI editors brought considerably more impactful unique day-to-day functionality to the table than emacs ever did.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by josteink on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @08:01AM (#23153026)
> You might not have seen it happen, but if my experience was any indication, they spent a lot of time crafting that config file.

Yes. I've spent 10 years crafting this file I'm using now. One bit at a time, every time I found something which could improve my productivity and editing experience.

And I can now bring that with me anywhere at literally zero cost.

I'm not sure why anyone would frame that as a bad thing?

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by Scarbutt on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:42AM (#23111459)
You had to spend time learn a new set of keybindings for each one though, for editing and interacting with the interface.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again by jjoonathan on Friday May 08, 2020 @01:03AM (#23111572)
Not really. The most common keybindings of GUI text editing have largely converged, and those that haven't collectively account for similar total complexity to, say, basic file/buffer management and movement in emacs.

Yes, the life of an editor nomad sometimes involves hitting the wrong key to build or occasionally forgetting which modifiers trigger block select, but those adjustment pains are typically overshadowed by the joys of high-priority platform integration that works straight out of the box, and they're downright tiny in comparison to the pain I used to experience getting half-assed platform support up and limping in emacs.