Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default

Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by CameronNemo on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:10PM (#23108946)

>The fact is that they're not really comparable projects; they have different audiences and different goals.

Agree on the second part, but two messaging solutions can and should be compared. 1-to-1 (text/voice/video) messaging is entirely possible with both Signal and Matrix, and evaluating that narrow use case is a reasonable way to compare the two.

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by tptacek on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:18PM (#23109011)

Lots of technologists believe that everyone should use IRC, or some next-gen IRC-alike, to communicate. Anything you can do with a specialized messaging app you can do with a messaging relay network. But, of course, specialized messaging apps outstrip messaging relay networks by orders of magnitude; IRC itself has usage that is a rounding error of WhatsApp's. Most people do not perceive any value from being part of a federated relay network; the audiences are not, in fact, the same.

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by CameronNemo on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:57PM (#23109794)

Again, I agree with you that the audiences are not the same. I specifically agreed with that statement in my comment.

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by tptacek on Thursday May 07, 2020 @09:12PM (#23110347)

Oh, I misread "the second part". Sure, you can compare anything, but I'd dispute that it's always productive to do so.

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