Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default

Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by ryukafalz on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:45PM (#23108722)

There's nothing about the Matrix protocol that makes it better for one or the other though; it's a pretty general messaging protocol. Riot looks more like Slack, yes, but there are other clients that look more like SMS apps, e.g.: https://dittochat.org/

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by goatsi on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:35PM (#23109657)

That's a really great example for showing the difference between federated protocols and what Signal is doing, since according to their roadmap support for end-to-end encryption is still in the planning stages: https://ditto.upvoty.com/b/feature-requests/end-to-end-encry...

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by godelski on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:47PM (#23108738)

THANKS! This actually clears things up better than the other comments. Is there a list of these things somewhere so I can learn more?

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by ryukafalz on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:03PM (#23108891)

This is probably the best place to start: https://matrix.org/clients

And of course more broadly, Matrix as a whole isn't even limited to only messaging apps, although that's where most of the focus has been thus far. There have been some fun demos/projects in the past though:

- Synchronized presentation slides: https://github.com/Half-Shot/matrix-presents

- MIDI over Matrix: https://github.com/McOmghall/midi-over-matrix

- VR videoconferencing: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/other/matrix-vr-demo

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by MayeulC on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:21PM (#23109044)

Well, https://matrix.org is a good place to start (but could use a face-lift for non-techies). There's a good list of clients, servers, SDKs, etc at https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now

And of course, there is the Matrix spec itself, but I learned most of what I know idling in matrix channels (#matrix:matrix.org and #synapse:matrix.org) and hosting my own synapse instance.

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by remir on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:32PM (#23109137)

Damn, this looks good! Thanks for the link!

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by ryukafalz on Thursday May 07, 2020 @11:28PM (#23111130)

Fair warning, that one’s fairly early in development. What is implemented works well, but I wouldn’t say it’s a Riot replacement quite yet.

FluffyChat is similar, and seems to be a bit further along (it has basic e2e crypto support for example) -https://christianpauly.gitlab.io/fluffychat-website/en/

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Re:Cross-signing and end-to-end encryption by default by remir on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:13AM (#23111325)

Thanks for the suggestion. It looks awesome!

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