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Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by whatok on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:04PM (#23106057)
Can you explain how the creditors of 4bn in Neiman Marcus debt are making money off this?
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by 0x8BADF00D on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:48PM (#23106651)
Because they won’t default now.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by whatok on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:57PM (#23106789)
Ok, a potential positive sum is definitely better than zero but once again, how exactly are creditors making money off this? The grandparent's post is implying that somehow no one is losing money in this situation. I'd like to hear how it works.
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by beamatronic on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:50PM (#23106693)
They probably sold the debt to another party
Re:Neiman Marcus files for bankruptcy by whatok on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:00PM (#23106827)
So you're saying that the original creditors made money off this and new creditors through secondary market transactions are left holding the bag? That's partially true but a massive portion of this debt is in pension funds or passive investments that track index funds. They track benchmark indices so they're buying these bonds at issue or shortly after. With no active management involved, they are also losing money when a company files.