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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by elondaits on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @09:42AM (#23090804)
You can charge money, you can have special rules outside of the scope of the GDPR... what you cannot do is make people’s personal data the price for content. Under the GDPR personal data is non negotiable.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by jagged-chisel on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @09:48AM (#23090869)
Thanks, this makes sense.

Edit: I'm surprised that elondaits's explanation isn't at the top of my thread. It makes clear that "exchanging your data as payment for 'free' services" is the target of GDPR and seems to me that's the only sensible explanation. Is someone willing to refute their explanation?

Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cortesoft on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:06AM (#23091793)
Yeah, I guess it could be thought of like laws against prostitution... you can give your data away for free, but you can't give it in return for something.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by jagged-chisel on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:53AM (#23092438)
Sure, GDPR lets you give your data away in return for something. But, according to elondaits, that can't be the only price for something.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cortesoft on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @12:38PM (#23093113)
That seems like a tricky rule.. what if I said “you can access this with either your data or $1000”
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by jagged-chisel on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:20PM (#23094510)
What makes that "tricky"? If it costs somewhere near $1,000 to provide the service, why not offer that price as the alternative?
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cortesoft on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:36PM (#23095983)
Price for a service isn't guided by how expensive the service is to offer, but by what the market will pay.

In this case, however, I was using it as an example of setting a price you don't expect to be paid... you want everyone to pay with their data, but you are required by law to offer an alternative payment form... so you set the price for the alternative to so high no one pays it.

Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by tensor on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:26PM (#23095869)
I suppose this will mean the end of free content in the EU.