Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown
by parsimo2010 on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:44AM
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I absolutely can make a statement that as things stand now, something is illegal, while also mentioning that there may be value in discussing whether it should be legal or not. Here's another one: According to federal law (of the USA), recreational marijuana use is illegal. So anyone that smokes weed for fun (in the USA) is breaking the law, and that's a fact. But there is a separate discussion that we should have about whether we should legalize recreational marijuana use. I didn't take a position on the issue, but I do support at least having the discussion.
I also did not claim that PopCornTime has a moral responsibility, I said that using clever phrasing doesn't make something illegal into something legal.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown
by wpietri on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @01:03AM
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It sounded like a moral argument to me, but I'll take your word for it that you're making a factual claim about the law. What law exactly says that they "they bore some responsibility" for other people's copyright violation?
As an example, the federal murder-for-hire law is what specifically establishes legal culpability for your not-quite-analogous example: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1958
Also, you can't simultaneously claim that they "bore some responsibility" and then try to put off "discussion about whether digital piracy should be illegal". Claiming they have moral responsibility is opening a discussion about what's right and wrong, which is at the heart of any serious notion about what should be illegal.