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Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by ocdtrekkie on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:22PM (#23075716)
Presumably, you'd have to succeed in that notice leading to a takedown. The 10 day waiting period only presumably kicked in when GitHub decided the DMCA was valid and actionable.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by URSpider94 on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:30PM (#23075763)
No, Github has no discretion in this process. Their only job is to follow the policy to the letter: provide the notice to the presumed offender and disable content, then forward the counter-notice to the original complainant and re-enable the content in 10 days.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by nullc on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:54PM (#23075928)
> Github has no discretion in this process

That is absolutely untrue. Github could ignore the notice or put the content back up immediately. If they do so, they may lose the DMCA safe harbor for this complaint-- but if there is no credible infringement, that isn't of much consequence.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by lostcolony on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @02:53PM (#23083430)
To do that is to assume all legal risk themselves, such that should a suit be forthcoming, it's against them, and far less likely to be thrown out, even if it's not credible. They're more likely to have to pay legal fees, and have lost legal protections.

The issue isn't their actions, it's that the process requires a 10 day wait, regardless of whether the content is infringing or not.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by KenoFischer on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:38PM (#23075819)
GitHub can decide a takedown notice is facially invalid. Of course if it's later found that they're wrong by a court of competent jurisdiction, they'd be in trouble, so they're likely to be extremely conservative in making this determination.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by URSpider94 on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:49PM (#23075887)
I'm curious to know whether platforms ever even bother to evaluate takedowns, beyond the most basic fact-checking (e.g. the item to be taken down is spelled properly). It seems like one of those cases where the risk of getting it wrong outweighs the benefit of trying to discriminate between good and bad requests.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by colejohnson66 on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:55PM (#23075937)
Doesn’t Google deny DMCA requests sometimes?
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by duskwuff on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:11AM (#23076401)
Sometimes. Not as often as they should, but they will at least reject keyword-based delisting requests for obviously innocent web properties like Wikipedia or IMDB (typically because they have an page about the movie that some overzealous "copyright defense" outfit is trying to protect).
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by greglindahl on Monday May 04, 2020 @11:06PM (#23076023)
"Perfect 10" is famous for filing obviously invalid DMCA takedowns and then suing. They've even won, e.g. Perfect 10 vs Yandex.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by ars on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:51PM (#23075904)
They are required to wait 10 days, or that's just their minimum timeframe?
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by URSpider94 on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:18AM (#23076447)
The way I read it, they are required to wait 10 days. I think in part to give the complaining party time to go to court if they think there's a true infringement.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by olliej on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:34PM (#23075792)
You’d think so, but not. This part of the DMCA has repeatedly been used with the specific intent of censorship. You force content offline for a potentially important period. For example, though I’m unaware of a case, you could issue a DMCA takedown for the last ten days leading up to an election and there is nothing the victim can do.