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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by hef19898 on Monday May 04, 2020 @05:07AM (#23065889)
Calls for violance can be, and are, very subtile. Just removing open calls for violance wouldn't change a bit, propaganda doesn't work that way. Nor does psychology. So in the end, both of your examples about $Group can lead to violance against that group.

EDIT: Typos

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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by ryankemper on Monday May 04, 2020 @02:14PM (#23071387)
Yes, but I think trying to map out indirect violence gets into very dangerous territory. So, that's why I draw the line at "directly" advocating violence.

Of course, the lines as always get blurry. To use a random example that comes to mind, when Kathy Griffin posted the severed head of Trump - was that a direct call to violence? That's a tough one to answer. My first intuition is that it does cross the line, but I could very easily see an argument that it's not.

So unfortunately there will always be that difficulty, unless we committed to an absolutist position of not removing ANY speech. I drink a lot of the kool-aid, and even I don't go that far.

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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by cutemonster on Monday May 04, 2020 @02:47PM (#23071770)
> not removing ANY speech.

That causes genocides to happen though -- are you okay with that or did you not know

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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by CamperBob2 on Monday May 04, 2020 @06:40PM (#23074221)
No, people with guns and uniforms cause genocide. People with pens and typewriters have never harmed a hair on anyone's head.

To disagree is to argue that human beings are nothing but programmable devices. If that's your position, fine, but we'll have to disagree.

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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by hef19898 on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @05:12AM (#23078029)
Goebbels might want to have a word.
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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by ryankemper on Monday May 04, 2020 @04:17PM (#23072772)
Sorry, can you clarify? Are you saying removing speech causes genocides, or not removing speech at all?
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