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Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by colordrops on Monday May 04, 2020 @12:46AM (#23064649)
If you are to just claim that someone made something up, you must yourself raise the standard and provide a scientific or otherwise evidential source. And Vice ain't it.
Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by ebg13 on Monday May 04, 2020 @12:47AM (#23064660)
> If you are to just claim that someone made something up, you must yourself raise the standard and provide a scientific or otherwise evidential source.

Vice in this article links to evidential sources while summarizing the findings. You should bother reading it and what it links to.

ALSO, and this is a bug fucking also, that's not how the burden of evidence for claims works! You just argued against falsifiability! OP is responsible for providing evidence for their own made up claim!

Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by colordrops on Monday May 04, 2020 @01:12AM (#23064770)
I was responding to you, not the OP. Most statements on HN are not immediately backed by sources, as this is not a scientific forum. But if you are just gonna tell someone they are full of shit, you should have some solid data behind it rather than a questionable clickbait rag that may or may not be cherry picking and massaging its own sources.
Re:YouTube has deleted the account of David Icke by heimdall on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:34AM (#23065444)
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” - Hitchens's razor.

The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. When they do not provide proof of their claim, and another person calls it "full of shit", it is not valid to shift the burden of proof onto them to disprove the original claim.

And there's a great reason for this - the bullshit asymmetry principle: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.