We need more video games that are social platforms first, games second

Re:We need more video games that are social platforms first,... by serf on Sunday May 03, 2020 @01:41PM (#23060566)

> Yup. I just finished putting 100 hours into Dark Souls 3. Anyone who says there aren't any quality single-player games anymore just isn't paying attention

The Dark/Demon Souls franchise is the undisputed king of forced online participation. MGS V has the same forced-online elements in the form of bases. You are literally penalized in both games for attempting to play entirely single-player.

I haven't played enough of the other examples to comment.

People famously play those games without an ethernet cable attached simply to play with some kind of similarity to a true single-player game -- I think that points to something being different between today's single-player games and yesterday's.

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Re:We need more video games that are social platforms first,... by sbarre on Sunday May 03, 2020 @02:39PM (#23060951)

> The Dark/Demon Souls franchise is the undisputed king of forced online participation. MGS V has the same forced-online elements in the form of bases. You are literally penalized in both games for attempting to play entirely single-player.

I played both Dark Souls 3 and MGS V to completion and never once engaged in multiplayer, except for that one time in DS3 where you have to get killed by a player if I recall?

The bases in MGS V were completely optional to the main story line. I put 100+ hours into the game without engaging once in those.

I think referring to either game as having "forced online participation" is a huge stretch.

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Re:We need more video games that are social platforms first,... by Sharparam on Sunday May 03, 2020 @11:19PM (#23064218)

You have explicit offline modes in Soulsborne. What are you talking about? There is nothing forced about the online modes of Soulsborne games.

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