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Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by Joeri on Sunday May 03, 2020 @03:21AM (#23057440)
This is a jobs program which happens to produce rockets. The rockets are not the key objective, the jobs are.
Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by golergka on Sunday May 03, 2020 @06:57AM (#23058241)
Playing devil's advocate here: wouldn't "preserve institutional knowledge about building rockets" also be it's goal?
Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by KorematsuFred on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:03AM (#23058272)
> preserve institutional knowledge about building rockets

No it would be "preserve institutional knowledge about building OUTDATED rockets"

If you are a tech company are you going to run your own outdated servers at 10x the cost because you would like to preserve institutional knowledge about running outdated hardware ?

Your argument would be correct if the cost difference was not that huge, the fact that it is so huge indicated that the tech they are using is very very outdated. No point in preserving anything about it.

Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by ethbro on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:50AM (#23058458)
The cloud hardware metaphor is a good one.

Preserving knowledge is easy and cheap.

Preserving capability (that is to say, people and companies with knowledge and ability to use it) is not.

To use the metaphor, a huge part of the military procurement budget is dedicated to continue building, deploying, and operating on-prem servers.

Not because it's more efficient, but because at an international level, having a cloud provider (or in this case Russia or China) tell you "No" when you ask to renew or expand, is unacceptable.

Unlike tech, machine shops filled with trained people can't be provisioned with a click...

Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by golergka on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:15AM (#23058318)
"Outdated" also means well-researched, well-tested, with very little unknown unknowns. I do not mean "safer", necessarily - but the data about how safe they are is much more reliable.

> If you are a tech company are you going to run your own outdated servers at 10x the cost because you would like to preserve institutional knowledge about running outdated hardware ?

As a startup CTO, I will think twice about using the freshest framework or programming language, which is sexy and cool - just because I haven't seen enough people use it long enough yet. I will build a hobby project with it and love it, but or a small product that is allowed to fail, but I will not start an important new product with something like that.

Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by kds3 on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:11AM (#23058303)
But do we really need those C*O jobs and increased shareholder value? Probably keeping many of rocket science jobs could have been cheaper for taxpayers. But no one cares about that today, our children will be paying our debt, not us.
Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by mdorazio on Sunday May 03, 2020 @08:07AM (#23058520)
It's not C-level jobs, it's thousands of normal blue collar and white collar aerospace jobs across multiple states for many years.
Re:NASA will pay $146M for each SLS rocket engine by valuearb on Sunday May 03, 2020 @12:17PM (#23059921)
Those jobs exist whether we build the utter waste of the SLS or not, those people will just be actually building something useful.