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Re:Operating Systems Without Systemd by robocat on Saturday May 02, 2020 @06:30AM (#23050838)
> And it shouldn't be spidering its way into the Gnome login manager, which grew a systemd dependency a couple of years ago.

gnome-shell used by the Gnome/Ubuntu login process also depends upon evolution-data-server!! See `apt-cache depends gnome-shell` for other dependencies...

Debian chose systemd instead of upstart because of licensing, not features, according to https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart

Re:Operating Systems Without Systemd by JdeBP on Sunday May 03, 2020 @02:39AM (#23057309)
If you have only read the wiki pages, written to summarize arguments by their various proponents, then you do not know why Debian people made this choice. The wiki pages do not relate that. Start by reading Debian bug #727708 in its entirety.
Re:Operating Systems Without Systemd by robocat on Sunday May 03, 2020 @06:53PM (#23062557)