Re:Some overwhelmed parents are abandoning at-home schooling
by iateanapple on Thursday April 30, 2020 @05:19PM
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> You certainly have a way of responding to things that weren't asserted in the first place.
I thought we were having a discussion and not a point-counterpoint style debate.
> I don't think shaming parents is producing results the way you think it is, or producing a "better culture and a better future," as you would say.
My parents grew up with actual famine, high levels of pollution, horrible factory jobs etc. So did almost all of my uncles and aunties.
A minimum wage job at Walmart in the US would have provided a huge increase in quality of life for them.
Yet looking at their education levels they were still miles ahead of the bottom 25% of US high school graduates.
> And you should probably recognize that there are limits to how parents affect their children even under "perfect" conditions.
Of course - but we can’t really untangle the complexities involved except by trial and error.
I feel we have tried providing more money/funding in the US with overall poor outcomes.
I’m telling you about a method that has worked - for a different culture in a worse economic environment. Maybe the success is not from the shaming but in spite of it - but like I said it’s difficult to untangle.
I’m not even really promoting it as I still remember the pain from getting caned for getting poor results.
I thought we were having a discussion and not a point-counterpoint style debate.
> I don't think shaming parents is producing results the way you think it is, or producing a "better culture and a better future," as you would say.
My parents grew up with actual famine, high levels of pollution, horrible factory jobs etc. So did almost all of my uncles and aunties.
A minimum wage job at Walmart in the US would have provided a huge increase in quality of life for them.
Yet looking at their education levels they were still miles ahead of the bottom 25% of US high school graduates.
> And you should probably recognize that there are limits to how parents affect their children even under "perfect" conditions.
Of course - but we can’t really untangle the complexities involved except by trial and error.
I feel we have tried providing more money/funding in the US with overall poor outcomes.
I’m telling you about a method that has worked - for a different culture in a worse economic environment. Maybe the success is not from the shaming but in spite of it - but like I said it’s difficult to untangle.
I’m not even really promoting it as I still remember the pain from getting caned for getting poor results.