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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by cultus on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @01:00PM (#23021447)
The folks participating in the protest are not at all lower on the socioeconomic latter, but predominately middle class. Black Americans, who tend to be poorer and less secure, support the lockdown at a higher rate than whites or other racial groups [0] (at least in Florida). Whites have the least support for a lockdown, but most still oppose reopening.

Lastly, at least some of the protests were funded by the DeVos family [1].

[0] https://poll.qu.edu/florida/release-detail?ReleaseID=3659

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/26/devos-family...

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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by q92z8oeif on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @01:58PM (#23022135)
Fact that US still have to break down so much into racial cohorts in polls is weird. And offer nothing of value other than the generalizations like "who tend to be poorer" that doesn't help the discussion nor analysis. What do you do with this information in this context?

How about breaking down by religion or something else that at least points to what kind of media/message the group is more exposed to? or something that hints at extraneous interests, like homeowners or not. There are so much better ways to break down this data.

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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by vinay427 on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @02:22PM (#23022443)
> How about breaking down by religion or something else that at least points to what kind of media/message the group is more exposed to?

I'm an American that fits into neither of these groups but nearly everyone I know does, so from my third party perspective I think you might be underestimating how different the sources, messaging, and conversations are between white and black Americans on average. That being said, I think it is still vastly overused in polls, and is perhaps a self-fulfilling prophecy to some degree.

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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by cultus on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @03:51PM (#23023371)
Due to the history of the US, race is highly determinate to culture and socioeconomic status. It's a very good proxy for to cut across all sorts of differences. For example, you mentioned home owners. Guess which race has very few of those?

I would have preferred to see a poll based on income, but race is still a decent proxy for that.

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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by q92z8oeif on Thursday April 30, 2020 @10:48AM (#23031374)
"decent proxy" is a gross generalization that depends on your deeply set pre-conceptions.
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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by cultus on Thursday April 30, 2020 @11:52AM (#23032201)
It's a statistical fact. It's not racist to acknowledge that racial minorities in the US are disadvantaged.
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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by misun78 on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @01:50PM (#23022045)
Building up socio-economic status is a straw man point here given how widespread the effects of this downturn are. It could be that parts of the middle class that are protesting may have lost their jobs or businesses and the stimulus checks don’t offset that as much as it would for lower income folks.
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Re:U.S. Economy Shrinks at 4.8% Pace, Signaling Start of Rec... by kyuudou on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @02:14PM (#23022350)
And our middle-class is typically just a few, if not just one, paycheck away from abject poverty.
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