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Re:Ask HN: Why do most job sites hide salary? by golergka on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @09:40AM (#23018983)
A couple of times, I found myself in a situation where I'm just opening a position and haven't hired developers in this particular stack and this particular skill level for a while, I may not even know what's a current market rate for this position would be. I'd get an overall idea after talking to 5-10 candidates, estimating their skill level and listening to what's their asking price is.

It's not even about trying to low-ball someone. Low-balling might be good in short-term, but not in long-term - both from perspective of a manager who's trying to do best by the company (because you want to build trust with your employees), and from a perspective of a political manipulator (when you inflate salaries of people you manage and budget of your department, you become more important in the hierarchy - saving company money won't earn you as much political points). What it is about is simply not having enough information about the market.

Re:Ask HN: Why do most job sites hide salary? by replyguy912 on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @09:48AM (#23019105)
having sat on both sides of the table, this is a weak rationalization for wasting a lot of people's time. You're making candidates do so much work in terms of applications, preparation and interviews and you don't even know what the market looks like? Are the positions you're staffing so unique that you can't get comparable data from anywhere, or are you really just fishing for someone you can low-ball?
Re:Ask HN: Why do most job sites hide salary? by golergka on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @10:38AM (#23019766)
Why do you consider their application process a waste of time? After we get the taste of the market, I don't see any reason not to hire one of those early applicants if they're the best candidate for the position.