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Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by londons_explore on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:54PM (#23011854)
It still surprises me that modern agriculture doesn't seem to track each individual plant.

Surely in todays world, it's very cheap to simply have a bunch of cameras looking down at the plants, and track from each seed, to each plant, to each leaf on the plants, to how many cents that plant earned you.

When you have that kind of tracking, you can do things like "If a plant is within 30mm of a neighbour, we will earn more if we kill one plant and let the other grow. Kill whichever is currently smaller".

Or "if a plant is growing within 2 inches of a rock, give it these extra nutrients".

Treating each plant separately should give much higher yields.

Our current system is equivalent to a human medical system which doesn't inspect each patient individually, but instead just prescribes medications to entire towns!

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by rmason on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:10PM (#23012077)
It's more complicated than that. The optimum population to plant say corn varies by soil type. But some seeds don't respond well to high population. When planted tightly together the corn in the fall will have have thin stalks and lodge, ie fall down. Sure you can harvest it but anyone who has ever watched someone try soon realizes they have a lot of losses.

When I was an agronomist I tried with several seed companies to get that kind of information but they didn't want to provide it. I am not certain if that has improved or not.

Most farmers are using 'precision agriculture' and fertilizing by either 2.5 acre grid squares or grids within individual soil types.

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by ssully on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:03PM (#23011992)
I am pretty sure modern agriculture does a lot of this based on keeping track of everything (what's planted, how much fertilizer, weather, soil conditions, etc). I am not sure the last time you have been on a farm, but setting up a system of static cameras to constantly monitor every individual plant would be very expensive and I am doubtful that it would be any better then what is being done now.
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by troutwine on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:08PM (#23012057)
Absolutely. I really, really wonder how you'd manage to get equipment in under the camera rig. All those cameras are going to look pretty tempting for the folks that normally just steal diesel, not to mention pretty silly flying around in bad weather.
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by ngcc_hk on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @10:44PM (#23014727)
Drone flying? With 20 acres need to fly back and charge ... and some ai software.
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by kube-system on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @01:32AM (#23015715)
Farmers are already monitoring their crops by sensors in their equipment, in the fields, in drones, and by satellite.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_agriculture

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by londons_explore on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:28PM (#23012311)
By "camera rig", I'm talking twenty cameras spaced at 3 foot intervals. Each camera a basic VGA camera at 30 fps, and all hooked up to a cheap computer with a low range GPU to find plants.

Cameras cost: $1 each ($20). Wiring: $2 each ($40). Computer cost: $120 (inc 24v PSU). GPU cost: $60.

That sort of equipment isn't going to be worth stealing.

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @03:59AM (#23016607)
And what would be the benefit? Financially I mean. What's the return on investment? And how does it apply to the thousands of square miles of farmland?
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by michaelt on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @09:01AM (#23018575)
There are precision farming systems that (according to their marketing materials) will allow you to precisely spray fertiliser only at plants, and weedkiller only at weeds. This saves money on chemicals, and helps the environment through reduced run-off.

Of course, adoption isn't universal [1] - a large farm will see a much faster payback time for the same bit of equipment, for example. And many farms will have other priorities for their limited capital; tractor auto-steer is much more popular than precision weed control.

[1] https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/147418633.pdf

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by HeyLaughingBoy on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @12:36AM (#23015416)
Nothing that goes into the field or on a tractor is going to be that cheap if you expect it to last more than a few days.
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by rhyn00 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @11:39PM (#23015073)
That would actually be a pretty difficult ask, you would have to cover the order of thousands of acers of land, spotty uplink service, supplying power or developing low power solution (also needs to be maintained by the farmers). Also, building a machine/implement to kill this or that plant would be pretty tough too. That's aside from the soil type and what kind of irrigation you're able to use.

It wasn't mentioned in the video, but you can get kinda close to what you're thinking today. When harvesting the crops it's possible create a map of the yield throughout the field. Then with combinations of random sampling of the soil throughout different parts of the field, one can adjust the fertilizer distribution thought the field. Finally, when you go to plant the crops next year, you can utilize this data to configure the planter to automatically space the plants a little closer or farther apart. Many farmers are already doing exactly this.

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by bluGill on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @09:38AM (#23018947)
Every taken a statistics class? I recommend it, done right you can get good enough results with just a few samples. There is no need for 19,200,000 (6000 acres at 32000 plants per acre, reasonable numbers for a large corn grower) samples, you can't look at them all anyway. Turns out that farmer can get by with far less samples with the right analysis.

University and seed researchers sometimes do the plant by plant analysis you are taking about. They are looking at just a few hundred samples though and only getting slightly better data.

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by ojame on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @07:43PM (#23013530)
It's not specifically what you're talking about, but individual plant management is becoming more and more popular. It's done with drones - not the blade type but the wing type. They use multispectral cameras and interpretation that ends up showing you things like malnutrition, over/under watering, crop wear, disease, insect infestations etc.

There has been a similar thing for decades, from planes. But drones mean much more regular intervals and much higher resolutions.

Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by Gibbon1 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:49PM (#23012544)
This comment reminds me of a Mexican friend talking about farming in the town he grew up in. It's not that the farmland is necessarily poor, but it's uneven. To farm productively means knowing where and when to plant what. Problem is it doesn't mesh well with mechanization. At least currently.
Re:Inside of a Tractor Cab [video] by pragmatic on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @10:37PM (#23014673)
Cannabis might be the only crop where that level of teaching is necessary.

Have you checked corn prices lately?