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Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by smallgovt on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:36PM (#23000386)
Um, I'm not sure if you're being serious, but there are plenty of ways to gradually re-open. As an example:

step 1) re-open elementary schools

step 2) re-open middle schools

step 3) re-open high schools & colleges

step 4) re-open all small businesses that do not result in gatherings of more than 2 people in one place, then 5, then 10, then 20, then 50

I'm not saying that's the right approach but there is certainly middle ground between current shutdowns and a total re-opening of society.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by watwut on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @07:43AM (#23006023)
Shouldnt step 4 be actually first one as it has lowest risk of making anything spread? Meanwhile, kids in elementary schools are unable to keep distance from each other and opening them requires reorganization like need for more space, need have them in smaller groups etc.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by smallgovt on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @12:46PM (#23008842)
You may be right, but my thought was that people can't go back to work if their kids are stuck at home.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by wgerard on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:00PM (#23000616)
I think the problem at this point is two-fold:

1) Schools are about to be done for the academic year, so they're effectively shut down until August anyway. It wouldn't make sense to re-open schools for less than a month.

2) For better or for worse, we've conditioned people to be wary of contact with other people. A movie theater that's 10% full is still hemorrhaging money, perhaps worse than if it was closed entirely (no payroll costs/etc).

I'm not sure what the breakdown is, so this could certainly be hyperbole, but it's entirely possible that people will just feel uncomfortable doing things with groups of >10 until a vaccine is available. A restaurant with 25% of its normal business will likely still need to shut down, reduce staff, etc.

Sure, we may not have 22MM people filing for unemployment but it might still be 10MM, which is still extremely abnormally large.

All that to say, there's a real possibility that gradual re-openings don't actually accomplish anything because the root fear (i.e. catching covid-19) hasn't been resolved in the minds of many people, especially in dense urban areas.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by maerF0x0 on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:29PM (#23000872)
> 1) Schools are about to be done for the academic year, so they're effectively shut down until August anyway. It wouldn't make sense to re-open schools for less than a month.

Though it could make sense to re-open them a month early, health concerns permitting. They already got a "summer break" and can make up for lost time

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by Pfhreak on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:41PM (#23000976)
They most certainly did not get a summer break.

My kid is absolutely still participating in school, and quarantine is pretty stressful for a kid. This hasn't been just loafing around, relaxing, and playing.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by brianwawok on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:02PM (#23001741)
My local schools have already called off the rest of the school year. At least for us, that horse has already left the barn.