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Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by jaywalk on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:09PM (#23000046)
THEY are the ones who need to take extra precautions.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by tptacek on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:14PM (#23000104)
Thankfully, you appear to be overwhelmingly outvoted in this "let's set up a peeing section for the swimming pool" position. Lockdown measures and the activist governors pursuing them are, for the moment, overwhelmingly popular --- the population as a whole is strongly more concerned that lockdowns will end too early, and strongly more worried that they will suffer health consequences from C19 than that they'll suffer economic consequences from lockdown.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by djrogers on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:23PM (#23000206)
Sadly you seem to be of the opinion that we can cower in our homes until the disease magically goes away. That's not the way this works - it doesn't just go away.

I'm really disturbed by the number of people who seem to be perfectly happy moving the goalposts for these lockdowns as long as they're politically popular. Here's a hint - freedom and constitutional rights weren't intended to be politically popular (or particularly safe) as the popular opinions don't need protection.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by jshevek on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:27PM (#23000272)
I understand people have strong feelings on this issue, but you can argue your position without using language like "cower" and "magically".
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by tptacek on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:25PM (#23000244)
This isn't responsive to anything I'm saying; it merely repeats points you've made earlier more emotively.

I think you're going to find that the message board logic of "a-ha, I read a tweet that says the goal of lockdown is flattening the curve; now that curves may be flattening lockdown has to end" isn't going to get you very far in the real world.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by matchbok on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:35PM (#23003067)
These lockdowns are very much constitutional. Perhaps you should actually read it.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by random314 on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:23PM (#23000201)
> let's set up a peeing section for the swimming pool" position

Ha ha. I am going to borrow that line.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by quicklime on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:14PM (#23000102)
No, your right to shed virus particles ends at the tip of my nose.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by jaywalk on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:26PM (#23000256)
That's a nice platitude you've got there. Too bad it means basically nothing.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by arblify on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:52PM (#23000537)
It actually does mean something, which is that freedom is not unlimited. Your freedom of action ends at the point where it harms someone else. Classically, "your right to throw your fist ends at my face." It's the same reason (legally) you can't point a firearm at me.

What we have here is the problem that merely by breathing around someone, you can cause them harm. Unfortunately we lack the ability to determine whether or not you will, but given the contagiousness of this disease if you are infected (or become infected) it is quite likely.