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Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by mtalantikite on Monday April 27, 2020 @02:53PM (#22998738)
As a vegetarian I agree, it's easy to be healthy on a majority plant based diet (for most people). The first couple weeks are the hardest as you get over the addiction to meat, but it's really not that big of a deal.

They're right about supply chains falling apart though. If everyone were to switch over to mainly plant based a lot of crop land would likely need to be moved from grain to feed animals to plants to feed humans. Who knows what that would take.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by BrandoElFollito on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @07:39AM (#23006001)
I eat meat but I am not a big fan. What makes a difference is that it is reasonably easy to season meat and thanks to the Maillard reaction it tastes good.

I love vegetables, but seasoning them so that the taste is not bland requires more work and skill.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by mtalantikite on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:58PM (#23094235)
For sure, it's always a tell of a good chef if they can cook vegetarian or not. If a restaurant doesn't have a good selection of vegetarian options I'll generally assume the kitchen isn't all that skilled in most cases (back when there were restaurants...).

Seasoning vegetarian dishes isn't all that difficult once you dedicate yourself to learning. You'll often need to look to non-European/American recipes though. I was lucky that I grew up in a household with a North African parent where I learned a lot about seasoning just by osmosis (even if they aren't veg, there were lots of vegetarian dishes). My partner is South Asian and there's obviously a long, rich history of vegetarian cuisine there. It's worth learning!

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by mumblemumble on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:08PM (#23000040)
Just using the same grain to feed humans instead would be rather easier. It's not like humans are incapable of eating corn, barley, oats, or soybeans.

I think the real problem here isn't that we can't get by without meat packing plants. It's that it's been 2 or so generations since the last time a really large of North Americans have had to adjust their diets in response to a major situation like this, and so we don't know what to expect, and the most psychologically available stories to look to are ones of actual famines.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by jandrewrogers on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:44PM (#23001000)
Crops raised as ruminant food have different mechanical, nutritional, and yield characteristics than crops raised for humans, they are optimized for things other than being easy and palatable for humans to consume.

Consider edible beets and sugar beets. Sugar beets are technically edible but many people would find the experience of eating them to be unpleasant, since they were not bred to be edible by humans.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by pjkundert on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:55PM (#23000572)
No. Ruminants eat food that humans can’t. Furthermore, grazing grassland uses marginal land unusable for industrial scale farming. And, locally operated meat processing works just fine.

Virtually all of our problems with the meat supply are self-created and can be fixed — lets just return to the horror show we had 30 or so years ago... wait - it was just fine 30 years ago, and someone who ate the same meat he sold you was responsible for raising and preparing your food.

Source: family owned and run feedlot, and worked at a local abattoir thru university.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by xsmasher on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:38PM (#23000952)
Ruminants CAN eat food that humans can't, but they're not - they're fattened up on grain that could be fed to humans. Feeding that grain to humans would be more efficient.
Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by jandrewrogers on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:46PM (#23001013)
It varies by locale. Most of the rural places I lived did not use human consumable cereals, as that would be far too expensive.
Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by xsmasher on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:12PM (#23002227)
I'll bow to your experience; we can't just ship the same crops to people.

Still, growing crops to feed to cows to feed to people is an inefficient path to getting calories to people. Grow people crops, skip the cows.

Re:Tyson Foods takes out full-page ad: “The Supply Chain is ... by throwaway894345 on Monday April 27, 2020 @06:43PM (#23000982)
The cereals in the supply chain today aren't going to be convertible into food for humans before the meat in the supply chain runs out. The meat supply chain is much shorter because it's much more expensive to keep meat fresh. Even if you don't care about the people who work in the meat industry and you think it's evil, surely shutting it down so abruptly (with the entailed food shortage risks) should be a last resort?