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Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by username90 on Friday April 24, 2020 @02:06PM (#22971190)
> To all the people jeering for Agile's demise, please provide a superior alternative.

Give individuals ownership over different parts and then let them self organize, that is all you need if you hire competent people. I'll never work at a place which doesn't work like that again.

Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by closeparen on Friday April 24, 2020 @04:06PM (#22972346)
To be fair, there are a lot of engineers on the market with a small-but-positive value under a structured process who would be totally useless in an environment like this. I can see why it might be rational to managers.
Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by drapred7 on Friday April 24, 2020 @04:16PM (#22972447)
The problem is that software engineers are paided poorly compared to bankers, executives, and a myriad of other occupations relative to how it used to be 30 years ago. Even doctors aren't paid like they used to be. So way too many smart people go into finance and real estate, which are jobs that really anybody could do, except that our corrupt system makes it worthwhile to pay the smartest people to come up with new ways to scam the public and the government. See: Fed policy, CDOs, sub-prime loans, QE...
Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by jevgeni on Saturday April 25, 2020 @05:48AM (#22976963)
Sub prime loans are the only thing out of that list where the public was scammed. Everything else you listed are internal banking things.
Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by drapred7 on Monday April 27, 2020 @03:40PM (#22999190)
The public absolutlely paid the price in the form of bailouts. If those banks had been allowed to fail I would agree with you, but they knew they'd probably be bailed out from the beginning and used CDOs to ensure it.

QE is a direct transfer of wealth from dollar holders to investors and banks. No way around that.

Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by closeparen on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:03PM (#23002568)
The bailouts were loans and equity stakes which got paid back, not grants.
Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by drapred7 on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:57AM (#23065553)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

Gambling with unlimited amounts of other people's money is going to be profitable.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2008...

Re:Agile's early evangelists wouldn't mind watching Agile die by poisonborz on Saturday April 25, 2020 @03:22AM (#22976359)
Yeah, this is always what I hear from selfish people. What is "competent"? Even if I know what that is, hiring them is hard and ad-hoc. Agile is a way to orgnize _everyone_ to deliver. Even "non competent ones". Those teams will deliver slower, but will deliver, instead of failing.