Fear and loathing at Railsconf

Re:Fear and loathing at Railsconf by wallflower on Friday June 27, 2008 @09:03AM (#229706)

I was at RailsConf as a Rails outsider (and there were a lot of us). Does Rails want to go mainstream? There are only so many Ruby hackers out there; and a lot more Java/corporate programmers.

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Re:Fear and loathing at Railsconf by rcoder on Friday June 27, 2008 @12:45PM (#229895)

This is how RailsConf can become a huge money-maker: just spin it as training for Java/.NET developers and their managers.

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Re:Fear and loathing at Railsconf by wallflower on Friday June 27, 2008 @01:00PM (#229914)

My company is so firmly entrenched in Java the only reason Rails is not completely dismissed is that one of the senior technical gurus sees its potential (and likes it).

The only reason I can see that there isn't "Learn Rails in 5 days" training for $2,495 is that there is not a market for it yet - since the managers don't want/need Rails programmers there is no need for over-priced training. And from my experience, you can't being to touch on Rails in 5 days. Even if you could, after the 3rd day, your brain becomes numb.

Remember, Java is safe. Java won in the Enterprise. Who could have predicated whatever percent of SMBs and Fortune 500 companies would have Java running every which where? Rails is a big step out of Java programmers comfort zone.

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Re:Fear and loathing at Railsconf by LogicHoleFlaw on Friday June 27, 2008 @11:36AM (#229832)

I think the better question is if the Java/corporate programmers (I am one by day) want to ride the Rails?

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Re:Fear and loathing at Railsconf by jamesbritt on Friday June 27, 2008 @04:52PM (#230154)

JRuby may lead many Java die-hards over to Ruby, while still being able to use their Java libs, packaging, and deployment tools

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