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Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by arcticbull on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:38PM (#22962924)
Young people are also drastically less likely to get severe disease, and drastically less likely to be hospitalized, see FIGURE 1. [1] I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries.

> Everyone needs to stay practice social distancing and shelter, because everyone can carry and spread.

Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case. [2,3]

The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm

[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-sa...

[3] https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-are-we-underestimati...

Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by camgunz on Friday April 24, 2020 @01:43AM (#22965029)
> I find it very suspicious that young people who don't go to the hospital with severe disease would require oxygen or end up with life-long lung injuries.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/09/my-near-d...

Or I don't know, Google ventilator effects. Lung scarring. Young people get this, and it hurts them, maybe forever. It's not common, but it's absolutely not never, and you can still spread the virus if you're asymptomatic. Seems like people should try and avoid getting it!

> Sweden has demonstrated at national scale that's not the case.

Sweden is so unlike the US in so many ways, this is a worthless anecdote. Imagine the differences in demographics, density, culture, literally everything.

> The reality is about 60% of us are going to get it one way or the other, so let's control which 60%, and in what order, and on what timeline before everyone stops listening and just walks out.

It's by no means certain 60% of us will get it. Especially if we do what we should do and build a competent testing and tracing system. The attitude that this is inevitable is lazy and puts thousands of lives in jeopardy.

Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by mlyle on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:03PM (#22969498)
Permanent restrictions, drastic social change, and large contact tracing infrastructure might keep it under the herd immunity threshold of ~60%. It might not, too.

But you can't let up at any point, because it'll still be endemic and ready to explode up to that herd immunity threshold.

I prefer approaches that get us to that 60% in an orderly fashion-- staying short of healthcare overload, and preventing as much infection in the vulnerable as possible.