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Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by dragonwriter on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:16PM (#22960710)
> If this study is accurate, then 1.8 million NYC resident are infected. So 10 290 deaths (as of today) suggests COVID-19 has a fatality rate of 0.6%

No, it doesn't, because the usual time to death, if it causes death, isn't zero, so you need to compare the number of deaths a couple weeks from now with the number of infections today to get a closer-to-accurate number.

Also, you are using the 10,290 confirmed deaths and i ignoring the 5,121+ additional identified probable COVID-19 deaths. So, between those two things, the actual fatality rate if the current infection estimate from this study is right is probably 2-3 times the figure you cite.

Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by mediaman on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:25PM (#22960839)
Interesting thought experiment: if NY daily deaths over the next two weeks average 400, that's 5,600 upcoming deaths from people presumably infected now. If about one-third of deaths are not accounted for (5,121 unidentified as a portion of identified+unidentified), then we'd have about 8,400 new deaths projected over two weeks including the likely unidentified deaths.

As a percentage of those who were infected as of this study, that's a 1.3% infection fatality rate.

Obviously some conjecture and estimates there, but it seems to be on the high range of early estimates (though much lower than the 3%+ rates derived from CFR with undercounted denominator).

Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by newacct583 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @05:24PM (#22961625)
You can derive that from better data. From https://covidtracking.com/ we can see that 57k people have been hospitalized in New York State so far, with 15k still in the hospital. Of the 42k who aren't, 16k died[1], so we'd expect that about 5k of the people currently in the hospital won't be coming home (some of these statistics are pretty depressing).

So two methods give us similar counts, matching up very closely with the separately measured CFR from way back in the original outbreak. That's pretty good back-of-the-envelope work.

[1] this isn't quite right as not every fatality was a hospitalized case.

Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by gridlockd on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:41PM (#22961081)
The time to go positive on an antibody test is not zero either, probably 7 to 14 days. Also the infection rate is lower now than it was in the past. I doubt this adds up to more than 50% higher mortality.
Re:Preliminary test results suggest 21% of NYC residents hav... by mrb on Thursday April 23, 2020 @04:40PM (#22961066)
You are correct, edited.