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Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by toasterlovin on Thursday April 23, 2020 @12:41PM (#22957873)
When your customers say that their product is too niche, they're probably right in a lot of cases. The argument that Amazon can enter every niche and cater to every consumer want is essentially saying that planned economies can actually function. But they can't. Amazon is skimming the highest volume product categories and that's it. They couldn't manage the complexity of branching out into every single long tail product.
Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by econcon on Thursday April 23, 2020 @02:21PM (#22959166)
Yes they can't but what Amazon is usually doing is pretty simple.

It gets into things where not much is needed.

For example, USB cables, laptop sleeves, kettle bells, dumbell, weight plates, led light and this kind of category is simply too big and it will put whoever ever discovered a new niche which doesn't require anything more than the physical product get outcompeted by Amazon.

Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 23, 2020 @02:12PM (#22959028)
Not highest volume.

Highest gross profit (volume * margin).

And how would you ever know either of these two (volume, margin) if you were an arbitrary 3rd party?

Amazon doesn't need to branch out into every single long tail product to cause severe disruption to a retail sector that is often predicated on low single digit margins.

Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by econcon on Thursday April 23, 2020 @02:23PM (#22959189)
How does Amazon know margin?

Amazon know volume, Amazon goes to suppliers on alibaba and gives them the quantity they require and then Amazon figures out what margin they'll be making if they sell it at the same or lower price than the original seller.

Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 23, 2020 @02:46PM (#22959517)
If you can't see volume, you can't estimate profit, and you can't differentiate which products are worth considering as a primary seller.

Start with volume as a suggestion of which products to investigate for purchase price with sellers. If you can get the "right" price with the "appropriate" volume, start selling the product direct.

Also, at Amazon scale, you can estimate margin by looking at price variation over time and throwing in some well tested assumptions.

Re:Amazon scooped up data from its own sellers to launch com... by toasterlovin on Thursday April 23, 2020 @03:42PM (#22960269)
> Also, at Amazon scale, you can estimate margin by looking at price variation over time and throwing in some well tested assumptions.

You really can't. You have to do research and modeling to figure out margins. There are probably half a dozen factors that determine a product's margin.