1. FWIW this is a recognized problem under M4A plans those people would be taken care of.

2. Nobody has a right to earn a living by causing suffering to others.

1. That’s a good idea. I’m personally concerned about the political fallout of “m4a causes job losses”.

2. Is a good slogan, but understand that most of those people don’t think they’re doing a bad thing. Spending too much time demonizing the line level workers at insurance companies is probably counterproductive.

2. Yeah I have dealt with these people a lot as I and my wife have a chronic condition. I sympathize with them, most realize they have a horrible job and just need to make money to eat. Some are just bad people because systems like that everywhere tend to be selective over time for people who don’t care. (The ones that do try to leave.)

But the principal still stands, no matter how much I may sympathize with someone they don’t get any right to make income from causing other people suffering.

If they’re being “taken care of”, how is the plan to eliminate their jobs supposed to save money?

Well probably not by just giving them their salary anyway. I guess there are many other options so I imagine it would be one of those!

I think it’s important to have a solid answer to this question. When people believe that a plan is weak on the details, this is what they are talking about. It gives the impression that the promises of the plan stated upfront (we will save money by moving away from wasteful health care system) are some sleight of hand, moving costs from a well-defined bucket to a mystery bucket we don’t measure.

That sounds like a good thing.

It’s a political liability for the transition period.