Re:A theory of Zoom fatigue
by killjoywashere on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:57AM
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I'm in the military. I have found that the habit of saying "over", learned as crowded circuit management for open radio circuits, is quite useful in teleconferences and VTCs, and for similar reason. It makes it clear that you're handing over the circuit. "Out" means you're leaving the circuit.
Re:A theory of Zoom fatigue
by notacoward on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @07:56AM
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I think that can work well, as long as people also adopt the military/aviation habit of speaking crisply and not rambling on to hog the channel until they're absolutely sure they've emptied themselves of every possible thought they could ever have on the matter. Like I just did with every word after "rambling on". ;)
Yeah, this. The experience with overseas calls I was referring to was talking to my then-girlfriend who was spending a year studying in France. Saying "over" all the time is not very romantic.
Re:A theory of Zoom fatigue
by munificent on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @01:55PM
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Her: I miss you so much, your touch, your smell. I can't wait to hold you in my arms and gaze into your eyes.
You: Copy.
On the amateur radio side you see both types mixing in pretty amusing ways. On the one hand there's contesters and dx-ers that are all about confirming contacts as fast as they can, and on the other there's more casual people that'll talk about anything and everything that comes to mind. In my experience both sides use some amount of procdural language, but at very different cadences.
Re:A theory of Zoom fatigue
by implements on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @08:00AM
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I gather some senior military people answer calls with a curt “Speak!” - and will get the hump if a junior presumes to “Out” them.
In the early 1990s I was sharing a flat in Edinburgh with a guy who's dad was working in Nigeria. The delay was routinely 4-5 seconds, which almost always took us a frustrating 30 seconds or so to sort out while we went backwards and forwards, both saying "no, you start" at the same time, leading to 10 seconds of silence, then both starting again...
4-5 seconds??? How is that even possible (with 1990s technology)? Even round-trip light time to the moon and back is less than three seconds.
Re:A theory of Zoom fatigue
by crazygringo on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @12:45PM
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If you use something like FaceTime over a cell phone, the audio quality is miles beyond anything any landline ever provided.
I have equally clear memories of my first overseas calls carried by undersea fiber because the lack of latency was so pronounced compared to what I had become accustomed to by then.
I still can barely tolerate carrying on a conversation on a cell phone though. The latency and compression artifacts are just horrible compared to a landline. VOIP has gotten pretty good though. I can't tell the difference between a good VOIP landline and a POTS line.