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Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by arcticbull on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:58PM (#22929137)
Even the Diamond Princess showed a 50+% asymptomatic rate and that group skewed way, way older than average -- you know, people who take cruises.
Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by acqq on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:03PM (#22929184)
50? Just initially, but in a week or two more of these developed symptoms, so more recent number was just 18%:

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-what-proportion-are-a...

"Setting: Diamond Princess cruise ship, Yokohama, Japan (n=-634 tested positive).

Proportion: 18%"

Also:

"23 Residents of a Long-Term Care Nursing Facility King County, Washington

10 (43%) had symptoms, and 13 (57%) were asymptomatic."

But then:

"Seven days after testing, 10 of 13 asymptomatics developed symptoms"

That means that just 3 of 23 remained asymptomatic there too, i.e. 13%.

It is estimated that the people mostly spread this virus exactly in the phase where they still haven't developed symptoms, and the virus can be detected. But that doesn't mean they will remain without the symptoms.

Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by arcticbull on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @02:52AM (#22932628)
Thanks, I actually didn't realize the number drifted so much over time. Good to know! I'm curious how many of them were actually seriously afflicted vs. a stuffy nose. I'd argue almost 20% actually asymptomatic is still huge in context.

Especially as we know the disease affects these demographics up to 100X more than the young.

For instance consider: "Emerging evidence suggests many more people are infected than tested. In Vo Italy, at the time the first symptomatic case was diagnosed, about 3%, had already been infected – most were completely asymptomatic." [1]

[1] https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-...

Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by DanBC on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @05:22AM (#22933341)
> a stuffy nose.

Not a covid-19 symptom.

EDIT: I'm wrong, sorry. Thank you to kgwgk for the correction.

Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by kgwgk on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @06:02AM (#22933513)
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, NASAL CONGESTION, runny nose, sore throat or diarrhea.

Re:Hundreds of thousands in L.A. may have been infected with... by asdf21 on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:21PM (#22929418)
I suspect most people notice a bit of a cold or "allergies"

Like you said, probably only 10% to 15% truly asymptomatic.