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Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:28AM (#22924723)
Depends on scale. American Airlines in the US used 80 percent of their profits for several years for share buybacks ($12.5 billion from 2010-2019). Not R&D, not salary increases for workers. Does that deserve a bailout that preserves existing ownership? That’s the target. That sort of behavior should be nuked from orbit.

I’d agree it’d be different if your business is small (less than $10M/year in turnover); you’d look at the books with a less critical eye.

Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by 0xffff2 on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:47AM (#22924931)
Why? Where exactly is the tipping point where dividends/buybacks become unacceptable? Unless you want to completely outlaw dividends and share buybacks (in which case you might as well do away with public companies), you're inherently putting the government in the position of defining completely arbitrary rules about how profitable a company is allowed to be.
Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:57AM (#22925042)
Yes, that is the role of government, deciding who does and does not get a bailout based on criteria developed by policy makers, using taxpayer funds. Bailouts are not entitlements.
Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by ed312 on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:43PM (#22926315)
A key point missing is defining that criteria in advance. If your market economy rewards buybacks heavily and you didn't know it was a moral hazard, why should your company (and its employees & shareholders) suffer? I can see banning future buybacks until the gov't loan is repaid though.
Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:59PM (#22927130)
Bailouts might be necessary, but they absolutely should not be expected. And if the are needed, we should take a piece of your equity for our troubles. If you don't agree to that, which is your right as a business, make do without.
Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by chrismeller on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:34AM (#22924787)
That’s the point. You are assuming that every applicant is AA size... the reality is that 99% of businesses are not, and you’re killing those business, their employees, their owners, and their families.
Re:Denmark: No aid for companies which pay out dividends or ... by bigfudge on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:08PM (#22925182)
I don't think anyone has clarified the actual rules in play here. Why should the taxpayer bail out firms which go on to pay dividends within 5 years? Why shouldn't the state simply take stock as a guarantee for loans in these companies?