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Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by newfeatureok on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:10AM (#22905474)
Ironically this view is the most destructive of them all. If people feel things are unfair they should never stop obsessing. If people just accepted injustice and unfairness slavery would exist and the Jews would be wiped out to give two salient examples.
Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by serpix on Saturday April 18, 2020 @02:30AM (#22905765)
As a parent of a seven year old who continuously upholds and measures fairness it is really tiring to explain why dad gets to have a larger glass of milk, or why dad has a larger portion of dessert. Fairness is skewed by the one judging what is fair. It is relative and trying to explain relative concepts to a child with no ability to understand relative terms is frustrating. Hence he gets absolute rules and does not understand why.
Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by yardie on Saturday April 18, 2020 @08:36AM (#22907291)
This doesn’t sound fair, to me, to the 7 year old. Just adults doing adulting by saying “do as I say.” The questions asked seem quite reasonable. There are bigger discussions on fairness we haven’t even begun to broach, racism and classism being a big one for me.
Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by jriot on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:06AM (#22924431)
The size of milk is easily explainable. I, a 230 lbs powerlifter am roughly five times larger than you at 50 lbs. My body requires more calories, nutrients than yours does. They can easily see that I am much larger than them, so it makes sense to them. As well as being factual.

I say this because my kids used to ask this often.

Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by UncleSlacky on Sunday April 19, 2020 @11:09AM (#22916399)
Reminds me of this quote from George Bernard Shaw: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by WalterBright on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:18AM (#22905497)
Kurt Vonnegut says it more eloquently than I ever could:

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by tomcatfish on Saturday April 18, 2020 @02:59AM (#22905871)
I don't mean to take the conversational bait, but that story is explicitly not about fairness, it is about equality, and about the dangers of mixing fairness and equality.

In this story, as it is frequently discussed:

Fairness = same opportunities

Equality = same outcomes

Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by FranciscusG on Saturday April 18, 2020 @09:14AM (#22907483)
If Fairness equals same opportunities, then that implies it would only be "fair" (Fairness) to have a Eugenics program, resulting in every child born being of identically high IQ and other character traits, physical abilities, health and talents.

I am not arguing in favor or against Eugenics - just making an observation.

Re:Exceptionally gifted children: long-term outcomes of acce... by h0l0cube on Saturday April 18, 2020 @02:57AM (#22905861)
To turn it around, a quote from David Foster Wallace, 'Try to let what is unfair teach you'.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/937442-try-to-let-what-is-u...