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Re:The Decline of Usability by bityard on Friday April 17, 2020 @06:12PM (#22903448)
I used Xubuntu for a number of years and it's a great lightweight environment overall. The main problems that I experienced with it are that it's handling of hot-plugging multiple displays (especially in between sleep states) has always been poor and crashy.

And I like the cohesiveness and integration of GNOME, although I had to do a hell of a lot of customization to mold it into something I could tolerate.

Re:The Decline of Usability by flyinghamster on Friday April 17, 2020 @08:38PM (#22904332)
I've also noticed that XFCE's handling of hotplug monitors leaves much to be desired, and it also cheerfully ignores my preference of not suspending when I close the laptop lid (so I can use only the external monitor and an external keyboard when I have it plugged into my TV). Close the lid under XFCE and "BEEP!" it goes into suspend mode instead of doing nothing.

Fortunately, Cinnamon is just an apt-get away, handles both monitor hotplugging and closing the laptop lid sanely, and works the way I expect a desktop to work. I've settled on Xubuntu+Cinnamon as my go-to when setting up a desktop or laptop.

Re:The Decline of Usability by bityard on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:48PM (#22927701)
Can you elaborate on Xubuntu+Cinnamon? That sounds interesting.

I also just noticed that there's an Ubuntu Cinnamon which might be right up my alley as well.

Re:The Decline of Usability by flyinghamster on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:44PM (#22941201)
The setup I did was to just install Xubuntu, then:

apt install cinnamon

Once installed, I logged out, and then picked Cinnamon from the session selection menu (the little gear near the upper right corner). It comes right up, though it won't pick up your preferences from XFCE.

I hadn't realized there was now a Cinnamon spin - is that still in testing? It's not on Ubuntu's list of flavors.