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Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:52PM (#22902366)
I'm not sure which platform you're talking about, mine uses PPC, which hasn't been in a desktop in quite some time.

kern.version: JUNOS 18.XXX.X #0: XXXX-XX-XX 03:28:10 UTC builder@svl-junos-p001:/volume/build/junos/18.X/release/18.XXX.X/obj/powerpc/junos/bsd/kernels/JUNIPER-PPC/kernel

There certainly are some routers that use x86 based CPUs, but they're embedded versions which you'd be unlikely to use on a PC.

Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by job on Friday April 17, 2020 @04:27PM (#22902647)
You can easily do origin validation on that type of CPU. It’s a very efficient lookup.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Friday April 17, 2020 @05:02PM (#22902952)
I guess we'll see what happens TBH. I didn't realize it'd been available in JunOS since 12.2 which covers a variety of devices (even some old stuff I've seen on customer sites), I've yet to come across a site with it deployed. Maybe I should do some consulting for folks.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by Hikikomori on Friday April 17, 2020 @09:23PM (#22904553)
Big isp core and edge routers absolutely use large Xeon CPUs.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:03PM (#22926546)
If you count a single multicore 1.9Ghz CPU as a "Large Xeon" then you'd be right, otherwise thats incorrect.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by Hikikomori on Monday April 20, 2020 @07:22PM (#22930001)
8 cores in Cisco rsp880, released a few years ago so not that small back then.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by londons_explore on Friday April 17, 2020 @04:44PM (#22902787)
Nothing stops you hooking up a regular PC to do route validation and run the BGP protocol and stuff, and load validated routes into any router you choose.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Friday April 17, 2020 @04:51PM (#22902863)
There are lots of things stopping that...

The first namely being that nobody is going to do that unless they have too much time on their hands and don't actually run a real network. "Just loading routes" into a router is not really that straightforward.

Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by az656 on Sunday April 19, 2020 @06:55AM (#22914928)
A lot of people, including very large companies are doing this in production. Using a route reflector/route server isn’t new, and it is very common.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:01PM (#22926530)
Doing it right is not easy, and most people don't do it correctly nor do they know how to make it work all the time.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by londons_explore on Saturday April 18, 2020 @12:42PM (#22908903)
Isn't that the entire idea behind the "software defined networking" craze?
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by bifrost on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:00PM (#22926522)
There's certainly an aspect to that, but generally no.
Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by skissane on Friday April 17, 2020 @04:32PM (#22902697)
> mine uses PPC, which hasn't been in a desktop in quite some time

Raptor sells desktops with IBM POWER9 CPUs – https://www.raptorcs.com/content/base/products.html – they are expensive, and the same amount of money would buy you a much more powerful x86 system, but they exist.