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Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by dsl on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:59PM (#22901316)
IRRs already solves this problem. RPKI just adds crypto because hand waving reasons.

Providers won't implement RPKI for the same reason they haven't implemented IRR filtering or BCP38 for the last 10 years. It adds operational overhead, adds another thing that might go wrong, and there is no financial incentive.

Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by kitteh on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:03PM (#22901892)
IRR has data issues. RIRs put some control around this (tying prefix to org), but plenty of trash in the other IRRs (people claiming they own /12s they don't, etc). Also the chain of people using as-sets to mark who their customers are is busted. People are being way too broad by putting peers in their set for networks that aren't their transit customers - and prefixes get permitted.

The BCP38 war is lost. Credit to those who try to do better but it's the hosting shops who are the biggest offenders. Most broadband and cloud providers do this proper. I chase down tcp syn reflection attacks and they always come from the same types of hosters.

Re:Is BGP Safe Yet? by topranks on Saturday April 18, 2020 @10:15AM (#22907880)
IRR is too messy and too many conflicts.

RPKI is a lot saner thing to be using.